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View Poll Results: Which Jackie Rookie would you rather have?
1948/49 Leaf 140 60.09%
1947 Bonds Bread Portrait 93 39.91%
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Leaf. I think the image is beyond iconic. Andy Warhol does Jackie. Love it.
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Bond Bread, not Bonds.
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These three cards preceded Jackie's 1949 LEAF card....therefore, why is the LEAF card being considered in this poll ?
Incidently, the 1949 LEAF BB cards were issued in the Spring of 1949.
Not 1948 !


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Bonds bread and ideally all the varieties
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Jackie has something like ~15 different cards before the 1949 Leaf.

Personally, the Leaf's are a very low effort and ugly set, so definitely any of the Bond Breads.
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All the varieties?

I own the swell…and a fakey square corner.

I really would like to have both the bond and the leaf. If i had to pick 1…the leaf.
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As an image collector I've never understood the 49 Leaf appeal, it's ugly in my opinion, much like the American Caramel Jackson. If you want to own the best Jackie image, by a wide margin, it's the 52 Topps.
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As an image collector I've never understood the 49 Leaf appeal, it's ugly in my opinion, much like the American Caramel Jackson. If you want to own the best Jackie image, by a wide margin, it's the 52 Topps.
Yes…the 52 topps is best!
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As an image collector I've never understood the 49 Leaf appeal, it's ugly in my opinion, much like the American Caramel Jackson. If you want to own the best Jackie image, by a wide margin, it's the 52 Topps.
May I borrow your phrase “image collector?” - I like it! And that is what I prefer as well. I am also in the market for a new Jackie and agree that his ‘52 Topps in a tiny little work of art! (Plus, I am a sucker for the red background - Leaf Williams, Cobb Potrait)

The black and white images look more like old photos to me - it’s a great looking image of Robbie. But doesn’t look like a baseball card to me.

Sorry - off the point of the poll… image collector, I like it!
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All the varieties?
Bond Bread I believe has 5 or 6 different images if I am correct. The round corner / square corner is one, and then there are 4 or 5 images that include white borders (one is a portrait, and then there are action shots).

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Leaf. I think the image is beyond iconic. Andy Warhol does Jackie. Love it.
I agree. It is not even close. Like the 1952 mantle, I find many(not all) who speak out against it and for earlier less desirable cards, don’t have one. Many times they purchased the less desirable/less expensive card and are simply promoting it the wrong way(trying to tear down the best one). The piece should always speak for itself. The bond bread has not in the past nor does it now imo. It does have the 1947 date(that’s it and that has always been the case). Attempting Re-write history seems to be a thing these days.

*I will add(many not relevant to many) the original images used for both the leaf and topps mantle are both rookie images in 1947 and 1951. I believe it would have a larger bearing if not the case.

The leaf is a beautiful piece of art. Unfortunately, the printing process used was not precise so many examples don’t do it justice. If they all look like this.. we would have an even more lopsided percentage.
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Sure, if the Leaf was a Krendler painting I would take the Leaf.

However, it is not. It is a very low effort and low quality crude colorization of a photo.

If the Bond Bread was also something completely different from reality, it could flip again.
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Admittedly, I'm biased. But I'd rather own the Bond Bread. I've owned the '49 Leaf and while it's iconic, the image is really bad. Add in the new information that has surface over the last few years, make the Bond Bread more appealing to me.
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Admittedly, I'm biased. But I'd rather own the Bond Bread. I've owned the '49 Leaf and while it's iconic, the image is really bad. Add in the new information that has surface over the last few years, make the Bond Bread more appealing to me.
It doesn't sound to me like you're biased, it sounds to me like you have an opinion.

If I had to choose between them, I would choose the BB for the same reason, Leaf is just a bad image.
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I happen to like the image on the '49 Leaf, but I can certainly understand not liking it. I have the same general objection to the '49 Leaf and '52 Topps sets; they're the result of thinking you can take perfectly good black and white images and make them more appealing to little kids by suffusing them with garish colors. In most cases I find it really detracts from the overall quality of the images, and in many cases (Leaf Jackie excepted) they're just plain hideous. You reliably find much better-looking color cards from the issues that use proper illustrations (1950-52 Bowman and 1953, 1955, and 1956 Topps -- and T206 for that matter).
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Jackie has one of the best looking run of cards in the hobby. His big three complement each other so well in color and sizing, and I love them displayed together.

But if I could chose only one, it would be the '47 Bond Bread portrait (D302). Issued during Jackie's rookie season, I'm in the crowd that considers it his true rookie. It also is a bridge to postwar, being one of the best looking B&W war-era cards before the return to color with '49 Leaf. The Bond Bread portrait (2 1/4" x 3 1/2") is also very close in size to the modern standard baseball card (2 1/2" x 3 1/2") - ten years before the '57 Topps set established the current standard. The portrait card is scarcer than the Leaf and '52 Topps, which requires some effort and patience to find a nice example. And, for an even tougher challenge, collectors can go after the remaining 12 cards in the Bond Bread Jackie Robinson set.


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I'm with Greg, Dean and Aaron on this: the Leaf just looks goofy, like someone smacked him on the head with a fungo bat. I actually like all of the Robinson cards except the 1949 Leaf and the 1949 Bowman. Neither really appeals to me aesthetically.

My favorite set since I was a kid is 1954 Topps



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I love his 1954 and 1955 Topps cards, the yellow background works well. Jackie's Topps run is just gorgeous.

Mine has the misfortune of a couple creases and was taped to something on all four corners at one point. On the positive side, I bought it for $40 at a show in c. 2015 after nobody was paying the $50 original asking price. I should have bought my other Jackie needs (1950 Bowman, 1956 Topps grey back) back then, but I was poor.
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