Good Hitting Vintage Pitchers

RUKen · #1 04-29-2023, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by molenick

I was looking for pinch hitting stats for Ruffing and Lucas but can't find them on Baseball Reference, they only show appearances by position.

On Baseball Reference, you have to go in Advanced Batting to the Situational Batting stats; that is where the pinch hitting records are listed.

RUKen · #2 04-29-2023, 08:01 AM

Dode Criss led the American League in pinch hits in each of his four seasons with the St. Louis Browns, 1908-1911. According to my Baseball Encyclopedia (because Baseball Reference does not have individual pinch hitting stats from that time period), Criss was 35-for-147 as a pinch hitter in his major league career. He batted .341 in his rookie season and had a career average of .276. He pitched in 30 games during his career, with 21 of those in relief, and also played 26 games at first base and eleven in right field. His pitching stats are 3 wins and 9 losses with a 4.38 ERA, which is pretty bad for the deadball era.

molenick · #3 04-29-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RUKen

On Baseball Reference, you have to go in Advanced Batting to the Situational Batting stats; that is where the pinch hitting records are listed.

Thank you, I knew it had to be there somewhere. Of some of the people mentioned:

Red Lucas was 117 for 430 (.272) with 2 HRs and 68 RBIs.
Red Ruffing was 56 for 214 (.262) with 2 HRs and 44 RBIs.
Wes Ferrell was 30 for 139 (.216) with 1 HR and 30 RBIs.
Tommy Byrne was 6 for 75 (.080) with 2 HRs and 11 RBIs.

I am not sure why Wikipedia says Byrne had 80 pinch hits. Maybe someone confused his batting average as a pinch hitter with the number of hits he had?

RUKen · #4 04-29-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by molenick

I am not sure why Wikipedia says Byrne had 80 pinch hits. Maybe someone confused his batting average as a pinch hitter with the number of hits he had?

My old Baseball Encyclopedia indicates that Byrne had 80 pinch at-bats, with just 6 hits. In any case, he clearly did not accumulate 80 pinch hits.

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