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[G1911]

Some progress in the N310 master set. I love the Bobby Burns name at bottom in the top left. PSA has the wrong year and the wrong fighter on their slip. There is no Tommy Burns in the set, Tommy was about 13-14 when this set was issued. It takes no research at all to know this set isn't from 1890; as the Corbett card bears a copyright date of 1894.

O'Donnell fought for middle and heavyweight titles in Australia and fought most of the top heavies of his time. He traveled with James Corbett as a sparring partner and exhibition opponent in the demonstrations popular at that time.

Myers was apparently the fastest running boxer of his time. He fought for some regional belts and he once held the great Jack McAuliffe to a draw in over 60 rounds in an 1889 fight for the lightweight title. That would seem to suggest he must have been a very good fighter. The original photograph this was based on has a man in the background and is more of a forest scene that has been redone for the Mayo card.

[GasHouseGang]

Nice pickups Greg.

[Exhibitman]

Tommy Burns...WTF?

On N310, talk about taking liberties with the artwork, they removed Hall's moustache. Here is one of the misprinted cards w/o the artwork and it shows him with stache; the sfache is gone on the full artwork card





These no-art ones are really rare. I am sooo pissed I passed on a Walcott at a show about 15 years ago.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Tommy Burns...WTF?

Sometimes, it's almost like PSA has no idea what they're grading in boxing land. Sometimes I wish the graders just wouldn't do boxing; they struggle to even separate T218 and T220 for the subjects in both series even though the cards look completely different. They generally get it right in baseball, but boxing none of them seem to know anything about and shouldn't be authenticating such items.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

On N310, talk about taking liberties with the artwork, they removed Hall's moustache. Here is one of the misprinted cards w/o the artwork and it shows him with stache; the sfache is gone on the full artwork card

These no-art ones are really rare. I am sooo pissed I passed on a Walcott at a show about 15 years ago.

This set is really difficult for me to checklist. There's multiple versions of the name at bottom cards, black-and-white's that are really rare, versions betraying some of the sepia but missing some 'layers' or some elements of the artwork, versions that are so heavily redone that they are a much darker reddish. There's at least 4-5 of what seem to be different types, maybe more, and separating some of them between what is just natural variance in printing a large run and what is the result of a genuine printing difference is difficult. For now I'm trying to do a set of 70 (35 name at top, 35 name at bottom) alongside however many very-different-looking cards I can find. Probably worth a full thread looking at each variant at some point. I'm struggling to ID a true master set's checklist still.

[AMPduppp]

Picked these up off the BST about two weeks ago. They were listed as 1922 Caramelos la Colmena. Has anyone ever seen any other cards from this issue before?

[G1911]

4 contenders and gatekeepers for the heavyweight crown for my 70 card Mayo run.

Choyinski/Chonskia was a friend of Jack Johnson and a very small heavy who beat Johnson, Maher, fought draws with Jeffries and Sharkey.

Maher claimed the title in 1895 rather dubiously. He lost to most of the big heavies and beat a number of them, apparently hit hard as hell but had a weak chin.

Mitchell was a hyped up challenger for two of John L. Sullivan's big bouts, and held him to a draw in the second contest. He lost to Corbett as well.

Godfrey had a mostly losing record against significant competition. Fought Kilrain, Choyinski, Peter Jackson and others.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by AMPduppp

Picked these up off the BST about two weeks ago. They were listed as 1922 Caramelos la Colmena. Has anyone ever seen any other cards from this issue before?

The set would be from Spain; doesn't look like them, though.

https://www.classicsoccercards.com/p...tistas-de-cine

[G1911]

150 out of 250 down. The early 1910 Jeffries card uses a pre-Johnson fight prep picture. This issue is almost certainly the first of the ATC boxing issues.

[AMPduppp]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The set would be from Spain; doesn't look like them, though.

https://www.classicsoccercards.com/p...tistas-de-cine

Agreed that it doesn't resemble any of the soccer issues there, but I'm kinda lost as to what other set they could be from then.

[Musashi]

Picked these up at different times, but they all just came back from SGC today: