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05-24-2023, 09:45 PM
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Boxing P4P GOAT is Sugar Ray Robinson and it isn't really close. Mayweather is not even part of the conversation. He fought far too few times and far too few quality opponents at the peak of their games. Harry Greb (298 fights; the #2 pound-for-pound fighter of all-time by the International Boxing Research Organization) or 'Homicide Hank' Henry Armstrong (held the featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight titles at the same time when there were eight divisions) would be far better choices for the conversation.
He turned professional in 1940 (retired in 1965) at the age of 19 and by 1951 had a professional record of 129–1–2 with 85 knockouts. From 1943 to 1951 Robinson went on a 91-fight unbeaten streak. Historian Bert Sugar ranked Robinson as the greatest fighter of all time and in 2002, Robinson was also ranked number one on The Ring magazine's list of "80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years". As of May 2023, BoxRec (the official record keeper of the Association of Boxing Commissions) ranks Robinson as the greatest boxer, pound-for-pound, of all time. He was named the best boxer of all time, pound for pound, by the International Boxing Research Organization (IBRO) in both of its all-time ratings, in 2006 and 2019. He would be better known to the non-hardcore boxing historians if there was more surviving footage of him in action. The pride and joy of my Robinson boxing materials:  As for heavyweights, toss a coin between Ali and Louis 1935 Detroit Free Press (M129) issued July 21, 1935  1965 signed training camp card 
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05-24-2023, 10:28 PM
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Sugar Ray also is credited with being the first fighter to have an entourage. Amazing career fought until he was ancient all the way through the mid 1960s. One of the more interesting stories about him was that he once wanted to opt out of a fight because he had a premonition he would kill his opponent. And indeed after being convinced to go ahead, just that happened. He then donated his next four purses to the man's mother to help her buy a house.
BTW, that one loss in his prime Adam mentions was to none other than Jake LaMotta who he later defeated several times.. Some footage here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uVXFb8BZoQ
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05-24-2023, 11:17 PM
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Speaking of the Bronx Bull, H815 Adam Hats premium, only known example:
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06-08-2023, 09:26 PM
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Not rookie cards.
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06-08-2023, 09:46 PM
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Bowling: I'll go with Earl Anthony if only because this card is IMO so cool and ahead of its time.
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06-22-2023, 05:49 PM
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Obviously his records have all been crushed, but you could argue Zatopek is among the greatest distance runners ever. This is to my knowledge his first card, the only one I have ever seen.
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06-23-2023, 09:02 PM
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Super Swede
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