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Old 05-28-2023, 10:21 AM
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If Correa is still in the running, isn't Lindor?
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If Correa is still in the running, isn't Lindor?
I do not think either are even close to being in the conversation
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Lindor 38 WAR and he isn't even 30 yet I don't think.
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If Correa is still in the running, isn't Lindor?
I think Correa and Lindor are both in the conversation (see post #2).

I think people forget how rare it is to be a good fielding shortstop who can hit.

Correa has the 4th highest OPS+ of any shortstop ever at 127. Wagner is #1 at 151, ARod is 140, Arky Vaughan is 136, then Correa. Ripken and Yount are at 115. Correa is having a down year and his rate statistics will probably deteriorate with age, but he is only 28 and already has a WAR of 39.8.

Lindor has 4 top 10 MVP finishes and a WAR of 38 and is only 29 years old.

Neither of the Puerto Rican shortstops are shoe-ins by any means, but if they have solid years into their mid-30s they have a serious chance of getting in.
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If Harper wins a third MVP (only 30 years old) he can retire immediately and be in then. I guess he's somewhere between "in right now" and "on the path". Hard to see him not reaching 500 homers. Even if he averaged 20 a year and played till 38 he'd have almost 450 of them.
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If Harper wins a third MVP (only 30 years old) he can retire immediately and be in then. I guess he's somewhere between "in right now" and "on the path". Hard to see him not reaching 500 homers. Even if he averaged 20 a year and played till 38 he'd have almost 450 of them.
That's exactly where Stark put him on the list.
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Sorry I meant “red zone”. I think of all the players he listed there Harper is the elite player and ahead of everyone else with him. A third MVP clinches and he could retire the next day a HOFer even if it were next season. The rest of the list will need to compile to get in.

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Looks like a pretty reasonable list to me. At first I was thinking Machado might be rated a category too high, but this 6.8 WAR season last year I think rightly pushes him into the "red zone" category.
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Fyi, came across a similar article by CBS sports' Matt Snyder that is a much more exhaustive list from the beginning of the year: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/w...s-with-a-shot/

He also has Votto as a lock.

In addition to Lindor, Correa, and Bogaerts, he mentions two other shortstops that are on the outside looking in--Corey Seager and Trea Turner. Like the others, both could sneak in with a few more great years.

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