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Old 06-29-2023, 06:49 PM
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Mariano Rivera.
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Edgar Martinez unless you could a glossy version separately. Same with Smoltz.
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How about McGriff?
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How about McGriff?
Does Leaf which was then just Canadian Donruss count as a second brand? Dunno.
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Beltran but don't get me started.
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Is 92 Bowman the only Trevor Hoffman?
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Not in the same time period but does Miggy have another true rookie other than the Topps traded and chrome version of it?
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Not in the same time period but does Miggy have another true rookie other than the Topps traded and chrome version of it?
Well, there is this, but probably technically an insert.
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Carlos Delgado and Paul Konerko
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Andy Pettitte.
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Not in the same time period but does Miggy have another true rookie other than the Topps traded and chrome version of it?
I consider the 2000 royal rookies a true RC as well, but others may disagree.
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I consider the 2000 royal rookies a true RC as well, but others may disagree.
As I recall he signed an astonishing number of those, like 5000. And with a legible sig and individually numbered too.
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A little earlier then you were asking, but for some reason the 1984 Donruss Joe Carter, is the first one that popped into my head.
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I consider the 2000 royal rookies a true RC as well, but others may disagree.
I think these are discounted now for being minor league cards (a rule I find silly as so many rookies and 1st Bowmans now are photoshopped into an MLB uniform, inconsistent, and only instituted fairly recently), but this was a great era for minor league photo sets and autographs. Royal Rookies, Signature Rookies, Just Minors all produced fun sets in this vein. Large print runs, decent photos, and tons of authentic rookie signatures that nobody wants because they aren't name brands and so are available for much cheaper. I'm building the 1999 Just autographed set and picked up a lot of the other similar cards lately.
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They should have photoshopped this one. One of the worst major RCs ever.
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When I think terrible and ugly rookies, these jump to mind:


Joe Jackson

Warren Spahn's 1948 Bowman (I would not call it a rookie, but everyone else does). Like the set, but what a horrible photo choice.

Pete Rose, Willie Stargell, and the other floating heads of 62 and 63.

Reggie Jackson's 1969 Milton Bradley

Mariano Rivera

Carlos Beltran

It is concerning to the artistic taste of collectors that a number of these are highly revered marquee cards in the hobby
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I think these are discounted now for being minor league cards (a rule I find silly as so many rookies and 1st Bowmans now are photoshopped into an MLB uniform, inconsistent, and only instituted fairly recently), but this was a great era for minor league photo sets and autographs. Royal Rookies, Signature Rookies, Just Minors all produced fun sets in this vein. Large print runs, decent photos, and tons of authentic rookie signatures that nobody wants because they aren't name brands and so are available for much cheaper. I'm building the 1999 Just autographed set and picked up a lot of the other similar cards lately.
I would consider the Just Minors auto cards minor league, but the Royal Rookies are in his Marlins uniform and from the dirt stains on his uni, the exact same at bat as the Topps Update just a frame later. I don’t see a reason not to count it personally but again others may disagree. The Just Minors auto is just an auto on basically a blank card with an outline of a generic player to try to skirt the jersey rules, I would totally consider that a minor league issue.
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I would consider the Just Minors auto cards minor league, but the Royal Rookies are in his Marlins uniform and from the dirt stains on his uni, the exact same at bat as the Topps Update just a frame later. I don’t see a reason not to count it personally but again others may disagree. The Just Minors auto is just an auto on basically a blank card with an outline of a generic player to try to skirt the jersey rules, I would totally consider that a minor league issue.
I didn't look up Cabrera's picture as I'm just saying I like the sets, but most of the Royal Rookies are minor league cards and uniforms (And Cabrera wouldn't reach the majors for several more years, he was 17 and in rookie ball). The Just cards are not blank outlines of generic players? Maybe they did this at some point but I have a ton of their sets and auto cards and they are excellent photographs of the players in unedited uniforms. We must be speaking of 2 different things.
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Is 92 Bowman the only Trevor Hoffman?
Yes, forgot both of them are only in that set. Best set for reliever rookies
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