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Old 07-02-2023, 07:32 PM
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Gotcha. I wasn’t familiar with the backstory that SGC had historically honored the guarantee.
Evidently they were concerned about all the altered cards being outed and wanted off the hook. Brazen move IMO, but with their loyal fanbase they rightly figured nobody would care.
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:43 PM
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Evidently they were concerned about all the altered cards being outed and wanted off the hook. Brazen move IMO, but with their loyal fanbase they rightly figured nobody would care.
Another rhetorical question not entirely intended to make your blood boil:

Is it better to eliminate a guarantee, or keep it and just decline to honor it?

I suppose those are the two outcomes we’ve seen, and it seems like the collective response has been a shrug, although some around here have noisily expressed their dissatisfaction with those outcomes.
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:46 PM
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Another question, not rhetorical- wasn't the topic the "controversy" of SGC
not grading at the National? We've reached Groundhog Day status, folks.

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Old 07-02-2023, 08:04 PM
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Another question, not rhetorical- wasn't the topic the "controversy" of SGC
not grading at the National? We've reached Groundhog Day status, folks.

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Embrace the journey, Trent!!

Just because we start complaining about one thing doesn’t mean that we should be constrained to narrowly limit our lamentations to within the confines of the original source of our bellyaching. We need room to roam and fully explore all of our avenues for dissatisfaction.
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:16 PM
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Another rhetorical question not entirely intended to make your blood boil:

Is it better to eliminate a guarantee, or keep it and just decline to honor it?

I suppose those are the two outcomes we’ve seen, and it seems like the collective response has been a shrug, although some around here have noisily expressed their dissatisfaction with those outcomes.
Well, at least openly eliminating it has the virtue of candor, so i would say that's marginally better.
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Anyone who followed the BODA threads and who is tuned into the extent to which altered cards actually permeate this hobby should have been able to predict the dissolution of any guarantee program that any of the TPGs pretended to offer. Just add up the total value of their potential exposure and compare that against their valuations as companies. They don't really have a choice here if they wish to remain in business.
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Old 07-03-2023, 07:58 AM
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Anyone who followed the BODA threads and who is tuned into the extent to which altered cards actually permeate this hobby should have been able to predict the dissolution of any guarantee program that any of the TPGs pretended to offer. Just add up the total value of their potential exposure and compare that against their valuations as companies. They don't really have a choice here if they wish to remain in business.
What a sad commentary on third party grading, if the companies cannot even afford to stand behind their services. Imagine a car manufacturer that could not afford to offer a warranty. But in the hobby, where stuff, and flips, trump all, nothing seems to matter.
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What a sad commentary on third party grading, if the companies cannot even afford to stand behind their services. Imagine a car manufacturer that could not afford to offer a warranty. But in the hobby, where stuff, and flips, trump all, nothing seems to matter.
True and sad.

Can anyone get ahold of Peter to get an update? Again, just some conjecture on the post, no actual response from SGC.
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Someone (that I don't know) just posted in a good, and usually reputable, private Facebook group that SGC is grading on site...
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Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?
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Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?
LOL! They might think that but what they fail to take into account is that the grading companies likely do not read this drivel. They would if we stopped sending them our cards but that happens a day after never.
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Do people think that if they kiss ass on grading companies in a public forum they might potentially get better grades down the road?
Not necessarily , but I was contacted by a board member years ago who told me he doesn’t comment on grading companies at all. Too many eyes on the board he said.
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Not necessarily , but I was contacted by a board member years ago who told me he doesn’t comment on grading companies at all. Too many eyes on the board he said.
They 100% monitor these boards.
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