New T206 Doyle NATL Coming to REA

[FrankWakefield]

Thanks for posting.

As I've said before in other threads, there are more Wagner cards out there than people realize. There's a mindset of folks who think that all Wagners have now been accounted for, and that all are graded. These people cannot conceive of how anyone would have such a card and not sell it or slab it. I concede that the Doyle Natl's are a bit more elusive because it isn't obvious that it's a seldom seen variation; Wagner is a bit more recognizable. But until a few months ago, this Doyle Natl wasn't 'known' and wasn't graded. It seems likely that there are still a few Wagners out there in the hands of someone who knows what they have, yet they don't want to sell it nor slab it. And maybe someone has a scrapbook of old ball cards that have been handed down from a great grandfather... that has cards yet to be seen or known by the likes of us.

Maybe it's like Fox and Mulder said, The Truth is Out There.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Thanks for posting.

As I've said before in other threads, there are more Wagner cards out there than people realize. There's a mindset of folks who think that all Wagners have now been accounted for, and that all are graded. These people cannot conceive of how anyone would have such a card and not sell it or slab it. I concede that the Doyle Natl's are a bit more elusive because it isn't obvious that it's a seldom seen variation; Wagner is a bit more recognizable. But until a few months ago, this Doyle Natl wasn't 'known' and wasn't graded. It seems likely that there are still a few Wagners out there in the hands of someone who knows what they have, yet they don't want to sell it nor slab it. And maybe someone has a scrapbook of old ball cards that have been handed down from a great grandfather... that has cards yet to be seen or known by the likes of us.

Maybe it's like Fox and Mulder said, The Truth is Out There.

Agree 110%.

A couple of years ago, I bought 4 1909 Colgan's Chips square proofs; Wagner, Joss, Chase and Baker. All 4 came from one woman who was selling stuff that her grandmother had tucked away. Are they incredibly valuable? No, but most collectors have never seen one before and I doubt many have seen one grouping of 4 cards together. They are fairly rare in my estimation and they remained hidden away in a family collection for 110+ years.

A couple of weeks ago, I bought a 1919 World Series program from Game 1. Again, another item sitting in a family collection forever, hidden from the collecting world. I'll bet there's not 20 of them left in the world. Quick research shows that only 3 or so have been auctioned off since 2014.

There's still good quality, rare stuff out there...lurking in forgotten drawers or family scrapbooks. Now, we just have to flush it all out.

[mrreality68]

Still a wow.

Over 110 years old new discovery of a rare error card that is so valuable.

These new discoveries are great and they add to the mystique of collections and what moght still be out there that people and families do not realize they have.

It does not hurt the collection because so few are “discovered” there is a greater demand than the supply.

[parkplace33]

REA does it again!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

REA does it again!

yes they do

and their preview pages are full of amazing cards and high grade and eye appeal

WOW

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

yes they do

and their preview pages are full of amazing cards and high grade and eye appeal

WOW

Link please?
I did not see any previews for the auction

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Link please?
I did not see any previews for the auction

If you go to their facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/RobertEdwardAuctions) or other social media sites they post "First Looks" every couple days of items coming up for auction.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Link please?
I did not see any previews for the auction

https://secure.viewer.zmags.com/publ...2f#/b8b99e2f/2

[atx840]

Very nice looking example.

I purchased what was listed as a one of one card a few months ago, hadn't been publicly seen since 2014, sure enough REA has a second example up for auction next week.

A few weeks ago, on this board, a newly discovered one of one T206 Chase Broad Leaf 460 showed up, it was part of an original collection put together in the 1910s.

It's fun to think about what great items are still tucked away out there.

[Exhibitman]

Oh, I agree, stuff is out there. To us it is the world; to 99.99999% of the world, it is dusty crap in an attic, basement or garage. I go to a lot of flea markets and paper shows and estate sales, and sometimes I see what is clearly the remnants of someone's estate: photos, papers, cards, etc. Gives me pause to think that this hoard of material represents an accumulation of a life, or maybe more than one life, consigned to a dusty bin in a parking lot. Then again, I also think sometimes that this item sat around for 50-75-100+ years waiting for me to find it and preserve it and appreciate it. The Greatest Generation and Silent Generation are in their dying years now and their stuff is starting to emerge. I am not at all surprised that childhood collections accumulated in the prewar era are still emerging and yielding 'new' T cards, probably courtesy of children or grandkids of those generations. Or maybe I am just contemplating this stuff because my parents died last summer and my daughter and I are still in the process of liquidating their stuff. Alas, no T cards, but lots of toilet paper (my father hoarded batteries, TP and tissues; I found hundreds of batteries, 100+ rolls of TP, and thousands of tissues and baby wipes when clearing out their stuff).

But I digress...

One of the humbling (and fun) things about collecting cards, especially those with an international base like boxing or soccer, is that there is always more out there to be discovered, so you are never complete and you never know it all about those issues. You also cannot assume that the 1 of 1 remains so.

[53toppscollector]

the amazing thing to me when thinking about really rare prewar issues is thinking about how many examples of cards were probably literally tossed in the trash, either right when they came out, or over the years as kids aged and left home, and parents tossed things out, especially long before these cards were known to be valuable.

i've just started collecting the M101-2 set, and the paper stock is super fragile and thin. its amazing to me that ANY copies of those survived 100+ years. then you think about something like T206, where millions of copies were produced, and 99% of them were just tossed in the trash. so many cobbs, mattys, cy youngs just discarded like they were nothing. because at that time, to most people, they were nothing.