Poll: BUYERS preferred National Location

The Detroit Collector · #1 08-03-2023, 10:58 AM

I voted for Vegas because I think it checks all the boxes, but personally I would like that National to constantly be moving instead of jumping back and forth from one or two spots. Since it is like the Super Bowl of the hobby, I think it should be treated as one and hit all parts of the country over the years, such as the actual Super Bowl.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #2 08-03-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Detroit Collector

I voted for Vegas because I think it checks all the boxes, but personally I would like that National to constantly be moving instead of jumping back and forth from one or two spots. Since it is like the Super Bowl of the hobby, I think it should be treated as one and hit all parts of the country over the years, such as the actual Super Bowl.

I agree, but the promoters have historically wanted the venue to be given to them for free. That drastically reduces options to the paltry few that some of us are truly tired of. Of course, Chicago's venue already hosts several other shows each year. Tiresome.

jcmtiger · #3 08-03-2023, 01:33 PM

I prefer SW FLORIDA Because I live there & we know how to air condition our Buildings unlike any of the northern cities.

. Lol

BobbyStrawberry · #4 08-03-2023, 01:44 PM

I voted for Vegas, but I'd be more likely to attend if it moved around to different parts of the country. Opportunity to see various cities and make a vacation out of it.

jcmtiger · #5 08-03-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmtiger

I prefer SW FLORIDA Because I live there & we know how to air condition our Buildings unlike any of the northern cities.

. Lol

Plus, 10 minutes from RSW airport to Hertz arena where you could hold a card show.

Steve D · #6 08-03-2023, 11:05 PM

Dallas or Houston.

Steve

Vintagedeputy · #7 08-04-2023, 11:29 AM

East Coast somewhere.

toledo_mudhen · #8 08-04-2023, 11:31 AM

Kansas City - Central Location, Has the venue, Hands down the best BBQ in the world.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #9 08-05-2023, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Kansas City - Central Location, Has the venue, Hands down the best BBQ in the world.

The problem there is that the area is ridiculously out of practically everyone else's way, yourself notwithstanding.

Why not host it in Anchorage? Perhaps not so bad for Midwesterners, but the vast majority live far, far away.

Incidentally, Vegas is, too, but there's far more traffic and various better deals to be had as a result. That said, I think Vegas to be more popular with customers than dealers. I'm on the fence.

Jewish-collector · #10 08-05-2023, 02:33 PM

I heard from a few dealers that a convention center needs to have a minimum of 600,000 contiguous square feet. The Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont used the entire 600,000 contiguous square feet this year. Unrelated to venue availability, scheduling, costs, fees, hotels, etc,...here are the only convention centers that have 600,000 or more contiguous space:

McCormick Place
Las Vegas Convention Center
Orange County Convention Center
Georgia World Congress Center
New Orleans Morial Convention Center
World Equestrian Center
International Exposition Center (I-X Center)
Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center
Pennsylvania Convention Center
Sands Expo and Convention Center
Mandalay Bay Convention Center
George R. Brown Convention Center
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
Donald E. Stephens Convention Center

SAllen2556 · #11 08-06-2023, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

I heard from a few dealers that a convention center needs to have a minimum of 600,000 contiguous square feet. The Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont used the entire 600,000 contiguous square feet this year. Unrelated to venue availability, scheduling, costs, fees, hotels, etc,...here are the only convention centers that have 600,000 or more contiguous space:

McCormick Place
Las Vegas Convention Center
Orange County Convention Center
Georgia World Congress Center
New Orleans Morial Convention Center
World Equestrian Center
International Exposition Center (I-X Center)
Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center
Pennsylvania Convention Center
Sands Expo and Convention Center
Mandalay Bay Convention Center
George R. Brown Convention Center
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
Donald E. Stephens Convention Center

Cobo Center was formerly called Cobo Hall and Cobo Arena. It is a large convention venue located along Jefferson Avenue in downtown Detroit at 1 Washington Boulevard. It is named after Albert E. Cobo,1 the mayor of Detroit from 1950 � 1957. It was designed by Gino Rossetti and its doors opened in 1960. Renovations to the building structure took place in 1989 and 2012. The current 2,400,000 square foot complex contains 723,000 square feet of exhibition space, with 623,000 square feet contiguous.

LOUCARDFAN · #12 08-06-2023, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

I heard from a few dealers that a convention center needs to have a minimum of 600,000 contiguous square feet. The Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont used the entire 600,000 contiguous square feet this year. Unrelated to venue availability, scheduling, costs, fees, hotels, etc,...here are the only convention centers that have 600,000 or more contiguous space:

McCormick Place
Las Vegas Convention Center
Orange County Convention Center
Georgia World Congress Center
New Orleans Morial Convention Center
World Equestrian Center
International Exposition Center (I-X Center)
Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center
Pennsylvania Convention Center
Sands Expo and Convention Center
Mandalay Bay Convention Center
George R. Brown Convention Center
Jacob K. Javits Convention Center
Donald E. Stephens Convention Center

Add the Kentucky Exposition Center in Louisville, KY to that list. It has 1.2 million square feet of contiguous space and is the 6th largest facility in the U.S. Louisville would make a tremendous National location. Louisville is within driving distance of 60% of the U.S. population and easy to fly into. Less than a mile away from Muhammad Ali International Airport. 42 neighboring hotels around the facility and another 8,000 hotel rooms within just a few miles away. 25,000 on site parking spaces and plenty of things to to around the Louisville area.

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nwfsteve · #13 08-05-2023, 06:33 AM

I love Vegas but know the convention center is way off the strip and not the easiest place to get to. Baltimore checked all my boxes and AC is fine. Chicago is a no. I didn�t like facility or the area and will not return.

Chris-Counts · #14 08-05-2023, 12:14 PM

It's interesting that Las Vegas received the second most votes. I'll bet that many of those who picked Anaheim would be thrilled if the National was in Vegas. At the very least, there should be a West Coast National every few years or so. The last one I went to was Anaheim about 20 years ago.

Exhibitman · #15 08-05-2023, 12:24 PM

Last Anaheim show was 2006. That was a great one for me, not the least of which is for what I did not do (sell a few cards that have skyrocketed in value) as for what I got there. I haven't been back since but I decided to set up at the Labor Day weekend show down there this year. Should be interesting. I had to take a hotel room because it is just a bit too far (time-wise) to commute every day.

View Poll Results: What is your preferred National location as a BUYER?
Anaheim, CA	42	11.86%
Atlantic City, NJ	58	16.38%
Chicago, IL	82	23.16%
Cleveland, OH	42	11.86%
Las Vegas, NV	73	20.62%
Other	57	16.10%
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