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Old 08-18-2023, 02:06 PM
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Patience used to be a virtue, no?
And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.
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And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.
Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.
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Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.
A 6 is even pathetic and I agree with the theory. 90% or more of what both companies are seeing has to be new stuff. They do not see it as an issue because cards keep coming in. It really needs to be addressed. This is where the human element in grading gets clouded--frame of reference.
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Any idea what the announcements he referred to will be? Hope it's a bulk discount.
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Any idea what the announcements he referred to will be? Hope it's a bulk discount.
Almost every video he makes he alludes to announcements coming and how excited he is and to my knowledge he has never followed up with any announcements.
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