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Old 08-25-2023, 06:11 PM
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LOL. Not surprised. Do you have a list?
I don't have a list, but off the top of my head:

Dak Prescott Panini auto's were autopens.

A lot of Kenny Baker's (R2-D2) autographs for Topps were signed by a family member or someone else.

Luka Doncic's for Panini (one of which sold for over $4.6M as I recall) appeared to be very different from his actual autographs and signed much slower with different letter shapes. I don't believe this hit 100% proven, but it is highly suspect at best and appears to not be signed by him.

One of the bigger pulls in the Panini Country Music set was found to be an autopen and was a big drama for a few months a few years ago in the non-sport world.

Topps and Panini mail the cards to the person. The person signs them and mails them back. Some cards at some times have the certification saying the athlete said they were real and others have a "Topps representative" type verbiage, that just means someone else present, usually in the athlete's posse, validated they were signed by the athlete or person. Some others are done at in-person signings but this is a minority. It is a system rife with opportunity and incentive to just have one of your hanger-ons do it for you.
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Old 08-25-2023, 06:18 PM
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Old 08-31-2023, 12:32 PM
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A few mentioned here.
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...tentially-fake

If I remember right for one of the Signature rookies football cards the company rep went to the bathroom and the player had a friend sign some while he was away. Like 700 of the however many thousand.
I think they recalled them because they knew what numbers were bad.
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