PSA 10's vs PSA 9's

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

A 10 will always be a 10 and a 9 will never be a 10, so as long as there is grading a 10 will always outsell a 9.

A 9 will often be cracked and resubbed and get a 10.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

A 9 will often be cracked and resubbed and get a 10.

Back in the days of show bumps, you didn't even have to crack and resub, just review. A lot of the early Jordan 10s are reviewed 9s bumped for favored submitters.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would love to buy, say, 100 PSA 10s from a certain online mass submitting dealer who has an insane number of 10s, break them out, and resubmit them as a man on the street submitter. My best guess is no more than 10 would regrade a 10.

[packs]

Originally Posted by G1911

A 9 will often be cracked and resubbed and get a 10.

I agree but as long as it’s in a 9 holder it won’t be a 10. My point was only that something in a 10 holder is king.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

I agree but as long as it’s in a 9 holder it won’t be a 10. My point was only that something in a 10 holder is king.

Obviously the difference is the slip says “10” if it’s a 10 slab and “9” if it’s a 9 slab. The discussion is whether this is completely arbitrary, makes any sense, and the massive price differential. Nobody is so stupid as to not realize the 10 slab says 10 on it lol

[packs]

I was responding to a question about whether cards in a 9 would close the gap on cards in a 10.

[seanofjapan]

I'm looking forward to when they come out with the PSA 11. It'll be a cool press conference.

PSA exec: "The numbers now go up to 11."

Reporter: "Ah, most grading companies just go up to 10."

PSA exec: "Exactly!"

Reporter: "Does that mean the cards are any better?"

PSA exec: "Well, its one better, isn't it? Its not a 10, its an 11, isn't it? Like say you are a grader at another company and you've got a card that is all the way up, all the way up at a 10, but you want to go higher. Where can you go from there?"

Reporter: "I don't know".

PSA exec: "Nowhere, exactly! What we do is if we need that extra push over the clifff, you know what we do?"

Reporter: "Put it up to 11?"

PSA exec: "Put it up to 11, exactly!"

Reporter: "Why don't you just make 10 the best and make 10 be the top number and just make that one the best one?"

PSA exec: (lengthy pause) "These go to 11."

[bxb]

The answer is simple.

If you submit the card, it is a 9.

If someone else submits the card, it is a 10.

[DocScoot]

While my last post was pretty down on the grading process, I did have a more recent experience that was a lot better. I'm just a nobody doing very small submissions from time to time, for reference. I recently submitted some Ohtani rookie cards that I had picked up raw on eBay over the years for next to nothing, hoping to get a few before the hype train. I submitted 7 of these that I thought were 10 contenders, and was thrilled to have 5 come back PSA 10, one in a 9, and just one in an 8. Pretty thrilled with those numbers! I do think it would be next to impossible to repeat this, and very much think the grade depends on the grader's mood that particular day, not a great system to be sure, but for trying to turn a $5-10 purchase into a $300 sale, there's not much of a choice but to play that game.

Originally Posted by bxb

The answer is simple.

If you submit the card, it is a 9.

If someone else submits the card, it is a 10.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bxb

The answer is simple.

If you submit the card, it is a 9.

If someone else submits the card, it is a 10.

This, but I would amend the first sentence to say 9 or 8.