why do sellers change asking price to sold after a sale?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by hockeyhockey

is there a benefit to doing that as a seller? aside from just not wanting others to know what the sale price was?

When I sell a card for the asking price, I always happily display this information, to help promote the idea that people should stop trying to get a discount from my listed prices.

When I sell at a discount to asking, I usually do not display that information because I don't want people to get the idea that they can get a discount from my asking prices.

It's as simple as that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

When I sell a card for the asking price, I always happily display this information, to help promote the idea that people should stop trying to get a discount from my listed prices.

When I sell at a discount to asking, I usually do not display that information because I don't want people to get the idea that they can get a discount from my asking prices.

It's as simple as that.

Right, if I took something off I wouldn't go out of my way to advertise it either, but neither would I eliminate all pricing information and substitute $SOLD.

[eliotdeutsch]

It’s generally understood that in markets like this the transaction information is property of the buyer and therefore up to him to disclose terms.

[parkplace33]

Because they can (for whatever reasons they choose).

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Because they can (for whatever reasons they choose).

I just read through 3 pages of this post and am amazed how much members get spun up about this topic. I echo my above statement on page 1. Members can do it because they can, bottom line.

[trambo]

I post sold in place of the price when I sell something here (which isn't too frequently but it does happen) for a few reasons. The most important one is to let people know the card was sold. If I left the price and then said sold, I'm sure I'd get a PM or two asking me about the price of the card and not bother to read that it was sold. Another reason is it really isn't anyone's business but the seller and me what the transaction entailed from a price perspective. I get people want info but I'm selling doubles so how I price something may or may not reflect the market and I'm sorry to say it isn't my responsibility to let everyone on the thread know how much I sold something for. I do know that chaps people but in that instance, it's just not their business to know what a private transaction entailed. We have VCP, 130point and other sites to help with values so look through those.

And lastly, I do it because I can....haha!

Don't mean to offend w/my why for those of you that don't agree w/me. Just saying how I feel about it.

[Flintboy]

I think the bigger question is what some people are asking for what they’re selling on the BST. I get it, you can ask whatever you want, it’s your card. But try to be within reason on pricing. Some sellers are running a museum….every other day with the bump bump bump. Same sellers too. End of rant!

[G1911]

1) the listed price is often not what it actually sold at. Often it traded. Often I took the OBO option.

2) the sales data for 99% of cards sold here on the BST is easily found by clicking eBay’s sold results to get a much larger data set. Unique stuff isn’t sold here all that often. I just don’t see any meaningful purpose.

3) because some people don’t really read and will continue to send emails even after I’ve said it’s sold or traded or gone, but if “$SOLD” is written over the price they can’t miss it because that’s the part people read.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by eliotdeutsch

It’s generally understood that in markets like this the transaction information is property of the buyer and therefore up to him to disclose terms.

But I imagine who marked $SOLD be upset if a buyer then posted the price?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by obcbobd

But I imagine who marked $SOLD be upset if a buyer then posted the price?

No, as seller I wouldn't care if buyer disclosed it. Not at all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

No, as seller I wouldn't care if buyer disclosed it. Not at all.

Then why are you deleting it?

[swarmee]

I just assume that it's people not wanting the IRS to see what transactions they should now be taxed on.

[JollyElm]

I covered this topic just a bit in my 'Collectorisms' thread...

25. The War of the Discloses
The eternal, ongoing debate of whether or not the price of a card sold in the B/S/T section should be kept in the thread for posterity’s sake, or removed by the seller.

519. Fool’s Sold
Adding a new post to your own thread (that everyone is now forced to read) to declare that the card has been sold, instead of simply editing the title to reflect this fact.

915. Cost Suppressant (refer to #25)
The deliberate removal of the asking price of a card in a thread after it has been sold.

See also: Sticker Stifler - a seller who chooses to edit out the price of his card to make it now read something to the effect of “$SOLD.”

See also: Dollarsense - the argument that leaving the sales price in for everyone to see is beneficial to the entire collecting community.

See also: Stetsman - someone who abides by the principal of leaving his asking price in and unchanged following a sale.

[Casey2296]

I always replace the price with SOLD as well as in the title, no particular reason other than that's my preference. If you're that interested and want to know what the card sold for PM me, I'll tell you, which I have done many times for members.

WTF +1 on bumping in the reply section instead of the title when the card is sold.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Then why are you deleting it?

Because I don't know if the buyer is cool with me disclosing it. I assume the ball is in his court.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The offer price, and any reductions made on the forum, were already "disclosed." This has nothing to do with keeping a private sale private. Nobody else on the board even knows who bought the damn card. The question is, having already posted the price, why go out of your way to delete it?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by obcbobd

But I imagine who marked $SOLD be upset if a buyer then posted the price?

Not in the slightest. They can post screencaps of our email conversations about it if they want. I don’t get why anyone would care in the slightest; how many cards are sold on the BST for which there is no pricing information available and people who didn’t buy it really have an interest in knowing? A handful?

[Oscar_Stanage]

I will chime in here as this is something I do.. here is my rationale:

At first, I had no idea how to sell a card, so I just did it because everyone else does.

now I continue for the following reasons.
1) it makes it clear the card is sold. I have left prices up (and note sold in the message) and continue to get messages on cards.

2) It protects the buyer from others knowing who bought it. If someone sends a "PM sent" message and the card is sold shortly thereafter, it can be known who bought the card and at what price.

3) Sometimes I may take a lower price and do not want that to be the base case assumption for other cards in the listing

There are definitely ways to accomplish all of these and also leave the sale price, but I just find this easier and preferable for me. I am not sure why this would annoy anyone.

I am annoyed by the unwritten rule that no one can comment on on a seller's cards/prices. IMO there is a nefarious/dishonest intent behind this, but I abide by it.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I am annoyed by the unwritten rule that no one can comment on on a seller's cards/prices. IMO there is a nefarious/dishonest intent behind this, but I abide by it.

I could have sworn this was a written rule somewhere…

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I am annoyed by the unwritten rule that no one can comment on on a seller's cards/prices. IMO there is a nefarious/dishonest intent behind this, but I abide by it.

Im curious what the dishonest intent is here?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I am annoyed by the unwritten rule that no one can comment on on a seller's cards/prices. IMO there is a nefarious/dishonest intent behind this, but I abide by it.

It was discussed here (the word "discussed" being used very loosely)...
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...t=interference

[midmo]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

1) it makes it clear the card is sold. I have left prices up (and note sold in the message) and continue to get messages on cards.

I do it for this reason alone. I've never overthought it beyond that. If I sell something on craigslist I delete the ad. Does that frustrate people too?

I do think it's annoying that people bump BST threads for no reason other than "nice card, glws" but whatever. Not a big deal.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I will chime in here as this is something I do.. here is my rationale:

At first, I had no idea how to sell a card, so I just did it because everyone else does.

now I continue for the following reasons.
1) it makes it clear the card is sold. I have left prices up (and note sold in the message) and continue to get messages on cards.

2) It protects the buyer from others knowing who bought it. If someone sends a "PM sent" message and the card is sold shortly thereafter, it can be known who bought the card and at what price.

3) Sometimes I may take a lower price and do not want that to be the base case assumption for other cards in the listing

There are definitely ways to accomplish all of these and also leave the sale price, but I just find this easier and preferable for me. I am not sure why this would annoy anyone.

I am annoyed by the unwritten rule that no one can comment on on a seller's cards/prices. IMO there is a nefarious/dishonest intent behind this, but I abide by it.

No nefarious intent behind the rule against commenting in the BST areas. It's common courtesy. Comments can totally screw up a sale. However, benign or positive comments are welcomed. It's a "Net54" thing, I guess.

And btw, it is a written rule and has been one for at least 10 yrs, if not more. No one reads the rules under the RULES icon though.... smh

Cut and pasted from our rules section (always available)


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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Right, if I took something off I wouldn't go out of my way to advertise it either, but neither would I eliminate all pricing information and substitute $SOLD.

Agree that it is a super douchy move. If one has the price up to begin with, just leave it and write SOLD next to it. Nobody needs to know if they discounted 50% or not.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Agree that it is a super douchy move. If one has the price up to begin with, just leave it and write SOLD next to it. Nobody needs to know if they discounted 50% or not.

I think "super douchy" is a bit strong here. Seller can do whatever he wants.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I think "super douchy" is a bit strong here. Seller can do whatever he wants.

Yes - I think "Semi Douchy" would be more than sufficient

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

When I sell a card for the asking price, I always happily display this information, to help promote the idea that people should stop trying to get a discount from my listed prices.

When I sell at a discount to asking, I usually do not display that information because I don't want people to get the idea that they can get a discount from my asking prices.

It's as simple as that.

+1