why do sellers change asking price to sold after a sale?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

But we're not an auction house here, we're like minded members who respect each other.
For example; a long time member posted his Rose Postcard of Moonlight Graham for sale, Ryan sent a PM and bought it.

Is the sales price anybody's business but the two of them? No.

If you were collecting Rose Postcards and wanted to get an idea of what that card sold for I'm sure you could pm Ryan and ask him, he's a nice guy and a good member so he would probably tell you.

If you want Net54 opinions to build a database of the card you want just make a post, "how much does a XXX go for?" you will get more opinions and data than you'd ever want.

I can appreciate that but I also like to rely on my own efforts and not have to trouble other people. In your example, if the seller of the postcard did not put an asking price in the post I would agree it is nobody's business. If he did then what harm is it in leaving it there?

And I pose the same question to you as I did to Greg: Should auction sites now refuse to share sales data with us and cease submitting data to VCP? Imagine going to eBay and searching sales and starting price was gone as was sold price? I think most in the hobby would be up in arms.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I can appreciate that but I also like to rely on my own efforts and not have to trouble other people. In your example, if the seller of the postcard did not put an asking price in the post I would agree it is nobody's business. If he did then what harm is it in leaving it there?

And I pose the same question to you as I did to Greg: Should auction sites now refuse to share sales data with us and cease submitting data to VCP? Imagine going to eBay and searching sales and starting price was gone as was sold price? I think most in the hobby would be up in arms.

There's no harm in leaving it there, but if it's one thing I've learned from old school collectors here is that you have to show passion and effort to get information. It's what sets us apart from a lot of the collecting world, that and a big dollop of honesty and integrity. It's why I love this community so much.
Auction houses, eBay, and VCP are in the business of gathering sales info, you can gather information here but not in the same way so it's not a valid comparison imho.

[Peter_Spaeth]

How is it showing honesty and integrity to request your seller to delete pricing information so you can try to get a much higher price? I am just missing that in all this discussion.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How is it showing honesty and integrity to request your seller to delete pricing information so you can try to get a much higher price? I am just missing that in all this discussion.

Is that a question directed towards me?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Is that a question directed towards me?

To anyone who wants to answer it, but you talked about the honesty and integrity here, and I largely agree, but don't see the practice we are discussing as a good example of it.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To anyone who wants to answer it, but you talked about the honesty and integrity here, and I largely agree, but don't see the practice we are discussing as a good example of it.

Yes, I should have been more clear and attached that to my what I love about this community sentence immaterial of the current discussion.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Auction houses, eBay, and VCP are in the business of gathering sales info, you can gather information here but not in the same way so it's not a valid comparison imho.

Auction houses and ebay are not in the business of gathering sales info they are in the business of making items available for sale. VCP is in business to gather sales data...I agree.

My point is that AH and ebay do not have to make those sales data available to us. They do and we use it. Or maybe you don't? So if nobody ever showed an opening bid, or asking price or final sales price wouldn't the hobby be much different?

I rely heavily on sales data.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Auction houses and ebay are not in the business of gathering sales info they are in the business of making items available for sale. VCP is in business to gather sales data...I agree.

My point is that AH and ebay do not have to make those sales data available to us. They do and we use it. Or maybe you don't? So if nobody ever showed an opening bid, or asking price or final sales price wouldn't the hobby be much different?

I rely heavily on sales data.

Fair points, I see it differently but if you ever want to know what I sold a card for just PM me and I'll tell you.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Fair points, I see it differently but if you ever want to know what I sold a card for just PM me and I'll tell you.

Appreciate that Phil! Thank you.