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Old 09-10-2023, 11:38 PM
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Well, the first sign of something being off is that Eddie Burns is supposed to be card #17 in m101-5, and yours is #18. Because Successful Farming cards are associated with m101-5 only, your card seems dubious.
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Well, the first sign of something being off is that Eddie Burns is supposed to be card #17 in m101-5, and yours is #18. Because Successful Farming cards are associated with m101-5 only, your card seems dubious.
And, Eddie Burns is listed as being card #18 for the M101-4 sets.
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Also, a telltale sign is that the card picture (background) looks to be the same color as the borders on yours. Those borders should be a distinctively different shade than the pic itself. Note the whiter borders on this rare Salesmans sample....
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Leon, how are you able to determine that your SF card is a rare salesman's sample?
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Leon, how are you able to determine that your SF card is a rare salesman's sample?
The lack of a card number at bottom
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Bryan, your card is interesting, and I would love to take a closer look should you care to send it. To answer your other question, I do not believe from your scans that the front is affixed to a whole different Successful Farming card, but I would need to have it in hand to better tell from thickness.

The back looks legit, and because it displays only minor creasing or wrinkling along the bottom I wonder what front damage could have prompted someone to try and place a different front photo; i.e. why go to the trouble? The front also looks legit to m101, IMO, at least from what I see (maybe a touch washed out). The problems pointing toward a possible “Frankenstein” are the numbering I mentioned and the fact that the edges do not match up–the front protrudes slightly. I also am skeptical about that darker streak that shows along the back right side from top to bottom. It looks like pressure may have been applied there to hold the front and back together. It is at a minimum a bit unnatural looking.

Anyway, here is a #17 Successful Farming Eddie Burns (not mine), later slabbed as an SGC 10.
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Thanks Rhett. I was looking all over the back of Leon's card for something that made it different from the back of my card. Learn something new every day!
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Here is another no-number salesman sample (used to be Leon’s).
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