The trend in Wagner cards

Peter_Spaeth · #1 09-11-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ahmanfan

Unless you have a very clear and compelling path for the funds, I�m not flipping a baseball card, losing 40%, and putting it in another baseball card. Just not worth it.

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Losing 40 percent? Flipping? Not sure where you're coming up with that. I've owned mine for many years and bought it at a tiny fraction of what it would realize even after fees and taxes. Not that I am doing it...

ahmanfan · #2 09-11-2023, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Losing 40 percent? Flipping? Not sure where you're coming up with that. I've owned mine for many years and bought it at a tiny fraction of what it would realize even after fees and taxes. Not that I am doing it...

Well, since your cost basis is so low, so you sell a Wagner for 50 you�re only going to net 30 to buy a 30 K Ruth, or mantle, etc. That�s the trade I would be unwilling to make personally. Your purchasing power reduces if you make a move..

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Peter_Spaeth · #3 09-11-2023, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ahmanfan

Well, since your cost basis is so low, so you sell a Wagner for 50 you’re only going to net 30 to buy a 30 K Ruth, or mantle, etc. That’s the trade I would be unwilling to make personally. Your purchasing power reduces if you make a move..

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By that logic one could never sell a card that has significantly appreciated, because there are always going to be taxes and probably transaction costs that take part of the nominal value. If I keep the Wagner, how does that confer purchasing power on me? We are right back to Yogi.

brunswickreeves · #4 09-11-2023, 10:17 PM

Thanks for the additional cards noted. I�ll add them to the in-progress list and update the data. Happy to contribute a consolidated view for ease of reference and use/action by our hobby.

aelefson · #5 09-12-2023, 07:29 AM

I too am amazed at the price for some of the portrait cards. Here is a much cheaper version (I think I paid 10.00 or less) that I like much better than almost all of Wagner's baseball cards. It is a page from a 1910 Baseball Magazine issue. I also included my two other Wagner items, a Baseball Magazine premium from 1914 and a weird postcard (picture of a picture?).

Alan

LincolnVT · #6 09-16-2023, 04:16 PM

The Wagner �trend� might be just that�people looking to ride a short wave. He was a great player and I consider him one of the best hitters in the early days of the game. As some have said, many of his cards are rare. The portrait pose is pretty, but to me there will always only be one Wagner�the T206. Too many other great players (with actual household names) for him to take up more spending space.

Touch'EmAll · #7 07-16-2024, 02:12 PM

An original Honus Wagner photo, which was used to create the T206 card, just sold at auction for $ 117,500. - It sold 5 years ago for $ 65.k. Wagner stuff seemingly still doing quite well.

cgjackson222 · #8 07-16-2024, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Touch'EmAll

An original Honus Wagner photo, which was used to create the T206 card, just sold at auction for $ 117,500. - It sold 5 years ago for $ 65.k. Wagner stuff seemingly still doing quite well.

While that is a decent profit, I don't know if a sale of just over $100K for a picture of its importance is all that impressive. The auction house had estimated $100K to $300K.

ullmandds · #9 07-16-2024, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

While that is a decent profit, I don't know if a sale of just over $100K for a picture of its importance is all that impressive. The auction house had estimated $100K to $300K.

id have expected exponentially more.

boneheadandrube · #10 07-16-2024, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

id have expected exponentially more.

Heavy restoration and re-mounting puts that in a lesser catagory...look closely at the image and read the description, its not a great example.

CardPadre · #11 07-16-2024, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

Heavy restoration and re-mounting puts that in a lesser catagory...look closely at the image and read the description, its not a great example.

I wondered if anyone else looked at the quality and amount of restoration. The attempt at redoing the shading under his nose looks like some dirty runny snot coming out.

ETA: I can understand someone going after this, not knowing when another might become available...or maybe since it maybe did fall below expected price, would be something they could not otherwise afford. It's clearly special, but just not a great restoration. Would be a treat to see an image before any work was done.

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Schlesinj · #12 07-17-2024, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Touch'EmAll

An original Honus Wagner photo, which was used to create the T206 card, just sold at auction for $ 117,500. - It sold 5 years ago for $ 65.k. Wagner stuff seemingly still doing quite well.

Can someone put a link?

cgjackson222 · #13 07-17-2024, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Can someone put a link?

https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...=145&lot_qual=

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