A-Rod and his classier counterpart

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Seven

A lot of revisionist history going around, after Ortiz was nearly murdered by a Drug Cartel.

As a side note, I'm wondering when the shoe falls on the NBA's massive doping scandal. It's pretty much been unspoken about, how much of a problem PED's are in that league. Derrick Rose has even been on the record about it. Also considering the NBA has the laxest policy out of the big 4 when it comes to drug testing.

What did Rose say? I'd be interested to read that.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

What did Rose say? I'd be interested to read that.

https://www.espn.com.sg/nba/news/story?id=6576340

Rose was one of several professional athletes asked the following question by ESPN the Magazine for its May 16 issue: "If 1 equals 'What are PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs)'? and 10 equals 'Everybody's Juicing' ... How big of an issue is illegal enhancing in your sport?"

In response, Rose said, "Seven. It's huge, and I think we need a level playing field, where nobody has that advantage over the next person."

When the article came out, Stern and a ton of players, pushed back against the narrative, and then Rose retracted it saying that he "didn't even remember the question being asked"

It wouldn't exactly be surprising though. A lot of the (now) older NBA guys from the 90s have talked about cycling doses of vioxx, back then, which is a PED. And It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy that someone like Lebron James, with tens of thousands of miles and minutes on him, could churn out a 29-8-7 season at the age of 38.

[DocScoot]

Are we talking actual villains or just media villains? Not sure I see Novak belonging on the list if the former.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I sure hope LeBron did not take PEDs.

https://deadspin.com/lebron-jameds-w...sch-1850834572

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I sure hope LeBron did not take PEDs.

https://deadspin.com/lebron-jameds-w...sch-1850834572

Indeed. It would be terrible for the sport. But it would settle the debate once and for all: Jordan for the win.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by DocScoot

Are we talking actual villains or just media villains? Not sure I see Novak belonging on the list if the former.

You're right in that he's not a villain in the same way that OJ Simpson (by the way, a nice addition to the list) is a villain. But he's easy to root against.

When he played Nick Kyrgios in the Wimbledon final last year, I was sort of hoping that they would both default at the exact same time and there would no winner declared.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Seven

https://www.espn.com.sg/nba/news/story?id=6576340

Rose was one of several professional athletes asked the following question by ESPN the Magazine for its May 16 issue: "If 1 equals 'What are PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs)'? and 10 equals 'Everybody's Juicing' ... How big of an issue is illegal enhancing in your sport?"

In response, Rose said, "Seven. It's huge, and I think we need a level playing field, where nobody has that advantage over the next person."

When the article came out, Stern and a ton of players, pushed back against the narrative, and then Rose retracted it saying that he "didn't even remember the question being asked"

It wouldn't exactly be surprising though. A lot of the (now) older NBA guys from the 90s have talked about cycling doses of vioxx, back then, which is a PED. And It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy that someone like Lebron James, with tens of thousands of miles and minutes on him, could churn out a 29-8-7 season at the age of 38.

Thanks - interesting that he walked back his comments like that.