The trend in Wagner cards

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah I remember a guy who posted about a PSA 9 52B Musial here who was actually bragging about how he had reviewed his target price with Brent (I guess it made him seem self-important?) and lo and behold that's where it went. LOL. And not surprisingly it later was identified by Blowout as recolored. Oops.

No idea about the Wagner except still waiting to hear from the winner on what he based his expectancy of a 50K price.

Based on his last post I am guessing he is not reading this thread closely (due to excitement...his word not mine). Maybe he is not here to provide answers but merely to make announcements.

Amazing, if true, on the dude with the 52B Musial. Seems a lot of PWCC's buyers trusted him to have conversations about card values.

[Casey2296]

Always nice to see a run up in values on cards that long time collectors now have a choice to cash in or not. I've always had a sense during the run up that "investors" looked for guidance from hobby "experts" on where to invest their money for the greatest ROI, unfortunately some of those experts own an AH, which is a recipe for a conflict of interest disaster.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Always nice to see a run up in values on cards that long time collectors now have a choice to cash in or not. I've always had a sense during the run up that "investors" looked for guidance from hobby "experts" on where to invest their money for the greatest ROI, unfortunately some of those experts own an AH, which is a recipe for a conflict of interest disaster.

This hobby is a walking conflict of interest. Starting with owners and employees submitting their own cards for grading, and it goes from there. Just how it is. Stuff.... oh I need not say it again.

[RCMcKenzie]

I don't see where he posted anything unusual. He said "Hey, gang, I bought this card." like everyone else does.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I don't see where he posted anything unusual. He said "Hey, gang, I bought this card." like everyone else does.

The Musial guy.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The Musial guy.

Oh, I see, I don't remember him. Thanks for clarifying.

[toothcutter]

I based my 50k rational on previous sales. Tip top bread wagner went for 120k in may heritage auction. In that same auction i paid 31k for a 5 pastel portrait. In the current REA auction the blue bckgrnd Wagner is now up to 25k (w the vig) and its a 1 rated. I guess i just felt comfortable paying 50k. I also picked up the 21 Koester Ruth PSA 6 in memory lane , 1929 Roger Peets Ruth, and 1916 Globe store Ty Cobb.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This hobby is a walking conflict of interest. Starting with owners and employees submitting their own cards for grading, and it goes from there. Just how it is. Stuff.... oh I need not say it again.

Which always leads me back to the collector/investor dichotomy, I don't know the first thing about investing in cards, my gig is real estate, I do know exactly what I want to collect for my PC with no regard to investing.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Which always leads me back to the collector/investor dichotomy, I don't know the first thing about investing in cards, my gig is real estate, I do know exactly what I want to collect for my PC with no regard to investing.

Reminds me of the SNL New Shimmer commercial:

Wife: New Shimmer is a floor wax!

Husband: No, new Shimmer is a dessert topping!

Wife: It’s a floor wax!

Husband: It’s a dessert topping!

Wife: It’s a floor wax, I’m telling you!

Husband: It’s a dessert topping, you cow!

Spokesman: Hey, hey, hey, calm down, you two. New Shimmer is both a floor wax and a dessert topping!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Reminds me of the SNL New Shimmer commercial:

Wife: New Shimmer is a floor wax!

Husband: No, new Shimmer is a dessert topping!

Wife: It’s a floor wax!

Husband: It’s a dessert topping!

Wife: It’s a floor wax, I’m telling you!

Husband: It’s a dessert topping, you cow!

Spokesman: Hey, hey, hey, calm down, you two. New Shimmer is both a floor wax and a dessert topping!

Yea, I don't know how to do that with cards, I'm fortunate that the cards in my PC have increased in value but that's not by design, it's my PC and I'm a collector at heart. Now if someone here would just sell me their Zeenut Jimmy Lewis I would be able to sleep more soundly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Based on his last post I am guessing he is not reading this thread closely (due to excitement...his word not mine). Maybe he is not here to provide answers but merely to make announcements.

Amazing, if true, on the dude with the 52B Musial. Seems a lot of PWCC's buyers trusted him to have conversations about card values.

The guy just came on here like he was so cool. A big shot. (The Musial guy)