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Cobb - first superstar
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+1 Hard to argue with that, but it is tempting to put Willie Mays into the mix. Nobody drew fans like Willie, the most exciting player of his generation.
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I would argue with it, as King Kelly was the game's first superstar, not Cobb
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Jackie Hodges You will not find any better gentleman of the diamond. Ambassadors who embodied the purity of the game and played it the way it was meant to be played. Matty begs to be on this list so he is tied with Hodges. ![]() |
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Babe Ruth Jackie Robinson Babe and Jackie, for obvious reasons. Matty broadened the appeal beyond where it had been; he brought an air of respectability to the baseball player as a professional.
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Maybe Kelley or Anson, or Lajoie or Wagner for that matter, were superstars on the field/to the people who played. To the general public, Cobb was the first superstar baseball player - which to me means he transcended the sport and thus did more for it than anyone prior. |
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I would think Cobb's place is earned because there was no one like him until he arrived. Every 19th century player paled in comparison to Ty Cobb. No one had ever considered someone could be as good as Cobb was until you saw Cobb.
He was simply the best player who ever lived until Ruth hits his prime and there have been very few players of his caliber since. Last edited by packs; 09-18-2023 at 10:26 AM. |
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I came here to say that, though more in the context of Anson than Cobb. King Kelly was a fasciating player in that he was the first to transcend baseball and be a full blown celebrity.
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However, Anson was a renown racist and an influential one who probably was the MLB figure most responsible for delaying integration until Jackie Robinson finally broke that barrier.
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I think racism in baseball has been addressed, the more relevant question is how we avoid creeps like Wander Franco from having sex with minors.
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I would have to list six. The first answer to almost any baseball question is Ruth. Jackie, for obvious reasons. Cobb, for obvious reasons. One not mentioned, yet, or not mentioned much, Mantle.. The personification of baseball in one of its greatest decades. An American folk hero. Clemente. Not the first Latin player, but the first great one. And finally, same concept, Ichiro.
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To me that’s like saying: “We’ve discussed that already but wasn’t John Wilkes Booth a hell of an actor”?
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Ty Cobb Babe Ruth |
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