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Old 09-18-2023, 02:32 PM
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Jeff, do you have any concerns about how Alonso will age across a longer-term deal? I'm a big fan of the polar bear but his player type/skillset tends to age very poorly after age 30.
I think all players that sign long term contracts do not age well if they sign contracts 28 years old plus. On the flip side now having the DH in the National League at least helps they can put him their to rest him and long term he can play their and helps keep the mileage off the body
But the market is what it is and these players will get long term top dollar contracts.
He is a career .253 average(this year trainwreck) but as discussed previously he is consistently hitting for power and has put up monster numbers in that time.
IF they want to keep him it will probably be a 7 year contract(I hope only 5) and if they do not pay him someone will those years
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I can get on board with five years, although I think 4 would be perfect. The back end of a 7 year contract will not be pretty!
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Somebody will offer Alonso a 7-10 year contract, He will take it...and year 5 through 10 (I'm being optimistic here) fans will be upset at the player, for not aging unnaturally, instead of at the owner and the general manager for giving him that contract to begin with.
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Somebody will offer Alonso a 7-10 year contract, He will take it...and year 5 through 10 (I'm being optimistic here) fans will be upset at the player, for not aging unnaturally, instead of at the owner and the general manager for giving him that contract to begin with.
agreed the nature of these contracts we may want to give 4 or 5 years and the teams may want to give 4 or 5 years but the market is paying these top end players 7 to 10 year contracts. And almost none of those contracts will the last few years be pretty and those player will most likely be DH's at that point
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What are the most recent comps for 7-10 year contracts for first basemen? Even Freddie Freeman's deal in LA isn't that long. (And we all know he's a far better player than Pete)
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What are the most recent comps for 7-10 year contracts for first basemen? Even Freddie Freeman's deal in LA isn't that long. (And we all know he's a far better player than Pete)

Freeman was 32 years old, and he got 6 years.

Alonso will turn 29 in December.
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Freeman was 32 years old, and he got 6 years.

Alonso will turn 29 in December.

As I write that, I see that Alonso is not eligible for Free Agency until after next season. I had assumed based on how everybody was talking he was a free agent after this year. He's arbitration eligible next season.

Might be worth the Mets waiting it out and seeing if he regresses next year or not.

Either he has a career year next year, like Judge did in his arbitration season, and his price goes up immensely, or his batting average and strikeout ratio continues to get worse next year and serves as a gauge of how he's going to age into the future.
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