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Old 09-21-2023, 03:44 PM
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I'm having a hard time digesting how PSA was convinced into adding the "One of a Kind" designation at the bottom of those flips.
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I'm having a hard time digesting how PSA was convinced into adding the "One of a Kind" designation at the bottom of those flips.
Hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Really?

Hahahahahhahahahahaha.

I'll tell you how :

THEY GOT PAID. I wasn't kidding when I asked Mr First Post on Net54 (who has gone noticeably silent, by the way) if the opinion seller was getting a cut.

They don't give a F**K about this business that many of us like to treat as a hobby except how it effects their bottom line.
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Well, that and it just looks "one of a kind" doesn't it?

I'm sure the opinion seller got completely valid proof of it's one of a kind-ness, too.

I know I trust them completely to know what they are talking about.
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Hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Really?

Hahahahahhahahahahaha.

I'll tell you how :

THEY GOT PAID. I wasn't kidding when I asked Mr First Post on Net54 (who has gone noticeably silent, by the way) if the opinion seller was getting a cut.

They don't give a F**K about this business that many of us like to treat as a hobby except how it effects their bottom line.

Also use of the word "Proof", just to wind you up a little bit more.

I have lots more questions about those slabs, but just don't have the energy.
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It is refreshing to see (here on the Memorabilia side of the forum) that most people realize how worthless PSA's bogus certification is. Try pointing that out on the Card side, and you'll get hate mail (despite mountains of "before and after" evidence of alteration and fraud).

PSA apologists and hypnotized sheeple in the Card world seem to care only about the number on the slab. Even if you prove to them that the card is altered, they'll say it's worth whatever the number says on the flip. This can mean a difference of $50,000.00 or more, between what PSA claims is a "9" vs. what is truly an "A".

The corruption runs rampant.
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It is refreshing to see (here on the Memorabilia side of the forum) that most people realize how worthless PSA's bogus certification is. Try pointing that out on the Card side, and you'll get hate mail (despite mountains of "before and after" evidence of alteration and fraud).



PSA apologists and hypnotized sheeple in the Card world seem to care only about the number on the slab. Even if you prove to them that the card is altered, they'll say it's worth whatever the number says on the flip. This can mean a difference of $50,000.00 or more, between what PSA claims is a "9" vs. what is truly an "A".



The corruption runs rampant.
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I'm having a hard time digesting how PSA was convinced into adding the "One of a Kind" designation at the bottom of those flips.
The photo is unique because it is the original that made all the wire photos that was sent through the machine. The strip on top a separate strip and is typed and then glued to the top. The TWO pieces are transmitted as one. On the receiving end is the wire photo, the Type 3.

If you type in the cert number in the psa website, it explains it right there for you.

Not sure what all the fuss is about here. It looks like it’s labeled correctly to me a a neat piece
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Old 09-23-2023, 03:03 PM
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The photo is unique because it is the original that made all the wire photos that was sent through the machine. The strip on top a separate strip and is typed and then glued to the top. The TWO pieces are transmitted as one. On the receiving end is the wire photo, the Type 3.

If you type in the cert number in the psa website, it explains it right there for you.

Not sure what all the fuss is about here. It looks like it’s labeled correctly to me a a neat piece

I think it's an absolutely silly thing to claim on a slab for what is essentially a "Type 1" press photo.

No more, no less.

Caption on the front, caption on the back....it's the same thing.

Not a "One of a Kind Proof"

Even if you "think" that's what it may be. It's just silly.

I say this acknowledging that the 60's to the modern time period has a dearth of high quality press photos, because of the laser, tele, wire, sound, radio, etc...movement, in the press industry.

.......but they are out there......and they're no different then a Type 1 Press photo, from when they were printing multiple copies from the negative in the 30's, and trucking them to as many locally sourced newspapers as could be manage-ably reached by press time the next day.

You want them to sell for a premium because they are scarce, let them sell for a premium because they are scarce.

What's on those PSA labels is nothing more then a cynical form of yelling "Synergy" during a Corporate Event, and expecting everyone to oooo and ahhhh about how clever you must be to have just re-invented the wheel.

Lastly, these aren't original photo negatives (which by the way can also be copied). These are prints. How can anybody be sure these were the only prints made up to transmit the wire/laser/tele photos? Back-ups were never made?

Are we saying it's unique "Press Art", because no two mock-ups and captions are exactly alike...therefore it's a "One Of A Kind", like any other piece of original art?

Again.....many will disagree with me.....but I think it's silly and unnecessary.

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The photo is unique because it is the original that made all the wire photos that was sent through the machine. The strip on top a separate strip and is typed and then glued to the top. The TWO pieces are transmitted as one. On the receiving end is the wire photo, the Type 3.

If you type in the cert number in the psa website, it explains it right there for you.

Not sure what all the fuss is about here. It looks like it’s labeled correctly to me a a neat piece
So.... what camera added the registration bars?

NOT from an original negative =Not type 1.

It's neat, but they've gone well outside even their own silly definitions.
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And the OP remains noticeably silent.

Probably busy watering his chia pet collection.
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Well I'm getting pretty excited about all this! I may have the ultimate one of a kind. I have an original press photo (Laimbeer and Kareem) with the hand-written note from the photographer or reporter describing the photo. This would have been even before the typed up note for the release over the wire. So there!

The Isiah photo has the caption pasted on like the op's "one of a kind". It seems to be a type of tape that has been typed upon and then stuck on the photo - or possibly the photo was just put into the typewriter.

The third one has the same markings as his Alomar photo for the various colors. They seem to be little pieces of photographic paper glued on.

The Ainge photo is hard to see, but the caption is actually just typed right onto the photo - like someone inserted the photo in a typewriter and went at it.

All these photos are from the late 80's. If I send these to PSA will they be worth more than the $1 I was asking at my garage sale?

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Well I'm getting pretty excited about all this! I may have the ultimate one of a kind. I have an original press photo (Laimbeer and Kareem) with the hand-written note from the photographer or reporter describing the photo. This would have been even before the typed up note for the release over the wire. So there!

The Isiah photo has the caption pasted on like the op's "one of a kind". It seems to be a type of tape that has been typed upon and then stuck on the photo - or possibly the photo was just put into the typewriter.

The third one has the same markings as his Alomar photo for the various colors. They seem to be little pieces of photographic paper glued on.

The Ainge photo is hard to see, but the caption is actually just typed right onto the photo - like someone inserted the photo in a typewriter and went at it.

All these photos are from the late 80's. If I send these to PSA will they be worth more than the $1 I was asking at my garage sale?

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I’d give a buck apiece for some of them.

Who’s the two Michigan players?
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