A New PSA Low

brian1961 · #1 09-27-2023, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Welp, they responded to my question of whether they were planning on actually laminating the check:

�Yes, that is correct. This will help us center the ticket and it will stay sturdy in the casing. There will be a chance this will get stuck again in the side of the holder if we do adjust it inside of the case. Due to this, we are giving you the option to laminate the ticket and reholder this for you.

Please let me know how you would like to proceed.�

"A New PSA Low" descends lower still. --- Brian Powell

G1911 · #2 09-27-2023, 12:16 PM

I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.

perezfan · #3 09-27-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.

Yes they are.

G1911 · #4 09-27-2023, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Yes they are.

perezfan · #5 09-27-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.

Look again at the picture in the original post. It already resides in one of those "baggie things".

pclpads · #6 09-27-2023, 12:52 PM

PSA makes me long for CSA and PRO.

G1911 · #7 09-27-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Look again at the picture in the original post. It already resides in one of those "baggie things".

Raulus' example in post 5; the thicker one with the extra bumpers. I don't know the technical names for the insert types as I don't play the grading game and I don't think I've ever heard one.

I strongly doubt that PSA has a new policy of laminating collectibles that don't easily fit into a holder now. Anyone else reporting this?

I think PSA is both blatantly incompetent and corrupt, but this one is hard to believe is actual policy rather than an uneducated customer service rep using the wrong words.

Leon · #8 09-27-2023, 01:04 PM

Wow, that policy of lamination should stop yesterday, imo. I really can't believe anyone at PSA signed off on that. (I jest, I believe it)
That is crazy to me. It literally destroys the value.

PS....again, I hope this is only someone who doesn't communicate very well.
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perezfan · #9 09-27-2023, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Raulus' example in post 5; the thicker one with the extra bumpers. I don't know the technical names for the insert types as I don't play the grading game and I don't think I've ever heard one.

I strongly doubt that PSA has a new policy of laminating collectibles that don't easily fit into a holder now. Anyone else reporting this?

I think PSA is both blatantly incompetent and corrupt, but this one is hard to believe is actual policy rather than an uneducated customer service rep using the wrong words.

Yeah, you're right... Post #5 looks like a "Baggie done better". It might also be a thicker material than the baggie in the OP. Much better aesthetically, but hopefully not lamination. It's hard to reconcile from the pic how the plastic is not bunched up behind those bumpers.

prestigecollectibles · #10 09-27-2023, 01:14 PM

They're not even smart enough to holder them in the same direction. Flip on the left, flip on the right. No consistency at all with PSA

Snowman · #11 09-27-2023, 02:51 PM

No, they are not laminating your collectibles in the sense that you're thinking of. As Raulus posted, they are using laminate material to encapsulate your cards though. It is the same material that you'd use to laminate a document at FedEx, but they're just heating it in certain spots to hold it from moving around. I've removed these from slabs in the past. It's a very rigid plastic. Technically, this is still referred to as "laminating", it's just not how most of us are used to thinking about it.

"Lamination is the technique/process of manufacturing a material in multiple layers, so that the composite material achieves improved strength, stability, sound insulation, appearance, or other properties from the use of the differing materials, such as plastic."
- Wikipedia

BobbyStrawberry · #12 09-27-2023, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

They're not even smart enough to holder them in the same direction. Flip on the left, flip on the right. No consistency at all with PSA

What an absolute joke. This alone would have upset me if I was the submitter

Exhibitman · #13 09-27-2023, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

They're not even smart enough to holder them in the same direction. Flip on the left, flip on the right. No consistency at all with PSA

Tell me about it...

atx840 · #14 09-27-2023, 04:40 PM

Nice check Jeff!

Steve D · #15 09-27-2023, 05:28 PM

As shown in the last post, the problem is that PSA doesn't put the item securely in the slab, allowing it to move around during standard USPS handling.

I've had the exact same thing happen to things like 1974 Topps Stamps, where the stamp ends up diagonal, often with one or more corners in the same situation as Jeff's Gen Custer check.

Here's the image of the check that's on PSA's website:

Steve

calvindog · #16 09-27-2023, 12:17 PM

I've got a ton of signed Custer items; here's some more, including a signed Elizabeth Custer check.

perezfan · #17 09-27-2023, 12:39 PM

Well you certainly don't want this piece of history laminated, and the "Baggies" they use are ugly AF.

There are infinite ways to protect and display the check that don't involve a clueless and corrupt rip-off entity such as PSA. I would consider a rigid toploader made for checks, acrylic case or 2-sided Float-frame for protection and display.

Those options will enable you to avoid PSA's annoying diagonal placement, bunched up Baggies, and ugly modern bar codes that clash with the history of the piece itself.

Best of luck getting it removed, and hope the top-left and bottom-right corners remain uncreased and fully intact!