1948 Leaf Satchel Paige (Real or Fake)

Lucas00 · #1 10-07-2023, 10:06 PM

Seller just added another fake, this time a '52 Jackie. Same corner job, fake staining etc. Adding to Elms new term I would call them "sharp rounded corners" almost like a playing card. I would also challenge any collector on the board to take a worthless or beat up common from the 50s/60s or even the 80s and try to replicate that perfectly round corner wear, it is not possible on a real card that has thin stock. Especially without damaging the card in other ways. This is best viewable by looking at the corners from the back, they have essentially zero damage but are perfectly round.

These fakes are on a heavy 2-3x thicker stock that is abnormally stiff from whatever their mad scientist process is. Allowing use of some kind of tool that can round the corners and not crease/damage the rest of the card. Almost like a piece of very thin wood.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 10-07-2023, 10:24 PM

Set oven to 375 and bake for 10 min.

ctownboy · #3 10-07-2023, 10:43 PM

I love how these estate sale finds always only have Hall Of Fame and superstar cards.....

David

steve B · #4 10-10-2023, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00

Seller just added another fake, this time a '52 Jackie. Same corner job, fake staining etc. Adding to Elms new term I would call them "sharp rounded corners" almost like a playing card. I would also challenge any collector on the board to take a worthless or beat up common from the 50s/60s or even the 80s and try to replicate that perfectly round corner wear, it is not possible on a real card that has thin stock. Especially without damaging the card in other ways. This is best viewable by looking at the corners from the back, they have essentially zero damage but are perfectly round.

These fakes are on a heavy 2-3x thicker stock that is abnormally stiff from whatever their mad scientist process is. Allowing use of some kind of tool that can round the corners and not crease/damage the rest of the card. Almost like a piece of very thin wood.

Punches to round corners can be had for less than $10 on Amazon, and small pressing machined with round corner tools for under 100 if you look more than a couple minutes. A set of round chisels that will do is often under 20.

The shop I was at in High school had one I got to run one day. it round cornered maybe 50-100 pieces at a time. And was made in about 1910.

I have some 48L with similar but less clean rounding, which is normal.

That rounding is easy, making it look like natural wear is not.

G1911 · #5 10-10-2023, 10:57 AM

what appears to be this same counterfeit version is for sale for $5.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1447131...b%3A1447131624

There are several other fake 1949 Paige's on Etsy for a few bucks or even less, but I think this is from the same batch.

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