Clayton, up to his old October antics

[todeen]

I got in a debate with someone who argued that Clayton Kershaw was a better pitcher than Bob Gibson. Regular season stats kind of make that argument. But I said I would never choose Kershaw as my #1 pitcher if they were on the same team because Gibson is a big game pitcher, and Kershaw is not.

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[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by todeen

I got in a debate with someone who argued that Clayton Kershaw was a better pitcher than Bob Gibson. Regular season stats kind of make that argument. But I said I would never choose Kershaw as my #1 pitcher if they were on the same team because Gibson is a big game pitcher, and Kershaw is not.

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I've been a huge Kershaw fan (yet I hate the Dodgers) since day 1, it's a lefty thing. And you could excuse his first and 2nd bad outings, maybe even a 3rd or 4th due to how much the Dodgers are in the postseason, but when you have 8 or 9 bad outings, that's just not good.

Gibson no brainer.

[Exhibitman]

I've read the analyses debunking the concept of clutch players, but then we have Kershaw and you have to wonder. Even the best players may blow one occasionally (Mariano Rivera and the D-Backs, for example), but not over and over and over. If you take out 2020, Kersh is 11-13 with a rotten ERA, just shockingly ineffective when it really counts.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I've read the analyses debunking the concept of clutch players, but then we have Kershaw and you have to wonder. Even the best players may blow one occasionally (Mariano Rivera and the D-Backs, for example), but not over and over and over. If you take out 2020, Kersh is 11-13 with a rotten ERA, just shockingly ineffective when it really counts.

I don't need a statistician to tell me that TWO FULL RUNS HIGHER ERA, in as many games as he has now pitched, is meaningful and not sample size. You can see it in his face. Such a great pitcher, and such a good guy, what a shame.

[BigMeek]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I've read the analyses debunking the concept of clutch players, but then we have Kershaw and you have to wonder. Even the best players may blow one occasionally (Mariano Rivera and the D-Backs, for example), but not over and over and over. If you take out 2020, Kersh is 11-13 with a rotten ERA, just shockingly ineffective when it really counts.

And if you take out game 5 of the '17 World Series or the games where he was mismanaged his ERA would be lower