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Old 10-31-2023, 12:57 PM
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Perezchica waved him home and then changed his mind– halfway down the third-base line.
Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.
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Old 10-31-2023, 01:29 PM
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Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.
No, I'm not sure--hence my initial post Look, there is no doubt he could have looked up at some point upon crossing third or so and probably got back to the base. I just find it to be a bit of armchair managing to say that what Walker did was stupid and done without any reason. Between the aggressive philosophy the team has used all year and the fact that a coach first emphatically waved him to score, I can see why it happened the way it did, and as a Dback fan, I cannot point to Walker as a goat there. With seven innings left in a 0-0 game, it was just a good baseball play by the Rangers. Handled perfectly with two perfect bounces-- one to Garcia and the other to Heim. C'est la vie.

P.S. It would have been interesting if Marquez called balls and strikes with a respectable degree of accuracy.
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Garcia is not starting tonight for the Rangers. Big loss especially if he's out for the rest of the Series.
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Garcia is not starting tonight for the Rangers. Big loss especially if he's out for the rest of the Series.
Just saw that both Garcia and Scherzer were replaced on the Rangers roster so they're both done for the Series. Garcia definitely a big loss, not sure if losing Scherzer will make a difference.
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Just saw that both Garcia and Scherzer were replaced on the Rangers roster so they're both done for the Series. Garcia definitely a big loss, not sure if losing Scherzer will make a difference.
Devastating blow losing Garcia.

Wow.

I'd tell DeGrom get loose and get in their for Scherzer.........(I know I know he won't back back until Aug '24, one can dream though)
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No, I'm not sure--hence my initial post Look, there is no doubt he could have looked up at some point upon crossing third or so and probably got back to the base. I just find it to be a bit of armchair managing to say that what Walker did was stupid and done without any reason. Between the aggressive philosophy the team has used all year and the fact that a coach first emphatically waved him to score, I can see why it happened the way it did, and as a Dback fan, I cannot point to Walker as a goat there. With seven innings left in a 0-0 game, it was just a good baseball play by the Rangers. Handled perfectly with two perfect bounces-- one to Garcia and the other to Heim. C'est la vie.

P.S. It would have been interesting if Marquez called balls and strikes with a respectable degree of accuracy.
I agree with you about the ump last night. Totally inconsistent. Remember the call later in the game on (I think it was) Moreno? About half a foot outside and called a strike. Smh
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Are you sure about this? I don't recall seeing a replay with a wide enough angle, but it looked to me like Walker wasn't even at third yet when the stop sign came up.

Garcia has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and Walker has to know that. Also, as has been said, Scherzer struggling and nobody out. At least look back or at the coach again before putting your head down and barreling home.
You are correct, he wasn't even at third when he put his head down, just bad baseball....even if he was safe....why risk it....nobody out, men on first and third, pitcher getting rocked.

It's just bad baseball to go home on that unless you are positive you are scoring. I don't care if that is how Arizona plays. The coach obviously knew he should hold. And yes his initial waving him home was wrong, but he caught his error before Walker touched third, Walker could have and should have seen that and hit the breaks.

How often does the runner score from 2nd and no outs in extra innings, I don't have stats but from watching this year seems like 50% or better. So a runner on 3rd nobody out has to be in the 75-80% neighborhood if not higher.

Walker F'd up.
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You are correct, he wasn't even at third when he put his head down, just bad baseball....even if he was safe....why risk it....nobody out, men on first and third, pitcher getting rocked.

It's just bad baseball to go home on that unless you are positive you are scoring. I don't care if that is how Arizona plays. The coach obviously knew he should hold. And yes his initial waving him home was wrong, but he caught his error before Walker touched third, Walker could have and should have seen that and hit the breaks.

How often does the runner score from 2nd and no outs in extra innings, I don't have stats but from watching this year seems like 50% or better. So a runner on 3rd nobody out has to be in the 75-80% neighborhood if not higher.

Walker F'd up.
The local press is throwing shade at both Walker and Perezchica for the play, although Walker appears to own it (I would expect nothing less), saying he froze for a second and tried to make up for the poor jump once he saw he was being waved in. Some radioheads question why Perezchica would have ever given the wave sign-- given the situation you presume hold and change to wave only if/when you see a misplay.

Of course, no one in AZ has the insight of some of the great baseball minds here on net54. Such a pity.
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From another angle Walker is clearly getting the big windmill as he rounds third and only after that does he get the stop sign. It's not that easy to stop and reverse fields with that full head of steam.

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Of course, no one in AZ has the insight of some of the great baseball minds here on net54. Such a pity.

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home plate umping looking shakey already early on, here we go again.
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Rangers doing ok without Garcia so far. 5 runs through the second inning.
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Great choice of pitchers by the Arizona manager.

They keep this up a position player may close this out.


Another bomb by Seager, I hope he has some silver polish at home, he gonna need it for that trophy.


C'mon Arizona wake up and make this a game I can't stand blowouts.
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So naturally, Jankowski, the guy who is only playing because Garcia is hurt, has 2 hits and now 10-0 in the third.
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