Is Anyone Updating the SCD Card Catalog?

rhettyeakley · #1 11-02-2023, 12:30 PM

We just need to start an American Cartophilic Society already and get to work.

The British version has been well organized and doing the work for a LONG time�they have cataloged so much but we have been complete slackers 🤣

Any work that is done needs to be across the board and work for sports card people along with nonsports. They have always been inextricably linked in the ACC.

Rich Klein · #2 11-02-2023, 01:18 PM

And we all need an attention to detail. This is an example of detail from something I did at work a few minutes ago.

I was doing some work on 1967 Coke Caps and saw we had Coke Caps which say Coca-Cola and...

There are also caps which say

Coca-Cola King Size

Yep those are distinct variations of the same item.

But who thinks of looking for something like that?

Leon · #3 11-02-2023, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

And we all need an attention to detail. This is an example of detail from something I did at work a few minutes ago.

I was doing some work on 1967 Coke Caps and saw we had Coke Caps which say Coca-Cola and...

There are also caps which say

Coca-Cola King Size

Yep those are distinct variations of the same item.

But who thinks of looking for something like that?

1967 Coke Cap collectors!

I vividly remember a guy, some might know him, whom I met when I set up at the Philly Show. All he collected is 1967 and 1968 Coke Caps....
.

Rich Klein · #4 11-03-2023, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

1967 Coke Cap collectors!

I vividly remember a guy, some might know him, whom I met when I set up at the Philly Show. All he collected is 1967 and 1968 Coke Caps....
.

That collector needs to edit/price/verify that part of any catalog

Exhibitman · #5 11-03-2023, 09:42 AM

I don't think we need pricing any more. It is a giant time-suck to do prices. There are myriad tools that scrape and aggregate price data in real time, and for cards that do not transact regularly, pricing is just a SWAG anyway. What we need is an encyclopedia of vintage cards with checklists and write-ups explaining the nuances of issues, updated as things emerge. Sort of a wikipedia.

steve B · #6 11-03-2023, 09:55 AM

For a while, I've considered doing a catalog, but in looseleaf form.

But very detailed.
So if someone wanted to collect one set, they wouldn't need the full catalog with thousands of pages, just the pages for that one set.

Having been through collecting a couple sets in extreme detail, It's a massive task, one that would probably never be truly finished for any year.

One of the catalogs I use in a different hobby has basically three sections.
Here's the set you can pretty much see from a short distance.
Here's the specialized listings, shades, papers, etc. Stuff a specialist would work on.
Then a section for most of the major plate varieties.

And occasionally a note that if you're completely nuts there's a book with still more detail

Something like that, with listings and pictures for the set with all the major variations, and additional listings for the minor and trivial ones.

Rich Klein · #7 11-03-2023, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I don't think we need pricing any more. It is a giant time-suck to do prices. There are myriad tools that scrape and aggregate price data in real time, and for cards that do not transact regularly, pricing is just a SWAG anyway. What we need is an encyclopedia of vintage cards with checklists and write-ups explaining the nuances of issues, updated as things emerge. Sort of a wikipedia.

I respectfully disagree with this. For the members of this board who are well attuned to card values and are active, yes you can probably do this without pricing. However, the majority of the people who would be interested in such a tome would want some pricing information. It would be understood that not all pricing would be the final word and we understand things do change. But the pricing is what would make you a profit

Leon · #8 11-03-2023, 10:31 AM

I politely disagree about needing pricing.

I agree with what Adam said (hey Adam). We have enough pricing tools already. Prices can change quickly so anything printed will be out of date when it leaves the printer.
How are you going to price a card like this one below, which needs to be added if this project ever gets started? What we need is to add things to the catalog, imo. Burdick did it with his Card Collectors Bulletins and always considered his ACC as a work in progress. Full speed ahead!! (who's driving?) And of course, Burdick never liked the value aspect of cards, which is why he listed them low. He didn't want to see the hobby become what it has

.

That being said, who said this has to be a for-profit project?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I respectfully disagree with this. For the members of this board who are well attuned to card values and are active, yes you can probably do this without pricing. However, the majority of the people who would be interested in such a tome would want some pricing information. It would be understood that not all pricing would be the final word and we understand things do change. But the pricing is what would make you a profit

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