Discussion- Best Bullpen Ever.

D. Bergin · #1 11-08-2023, 05:52 PM

If we're talking best regular season bullpen, the Yankees have had much better pens than the '98 one during the last 25 years or so. Might have been years they didn't win a WS or win 114 games, but they've had better pens.

Granted, from what I remember, the times Ramiro Mendoza came out of the pen instead of starting, would make the bullpen look much more impressive on raw numbers. Graeme Lloyd was very effective, but only pitched to 1 or 2 guys per appearance.

Just pick one of David Robertson's better seasons when he is matched up with Mariano, and that pen was likely better then the '98 one.

packs · #2 11-08-2023, 06:44 PM

I loved Ramiro Mendoza. He�s the perfect example of a guy you had to see play. His stats won�t jump out at you but if you watched him play you know he was a big part of those teams.

carlsonjok · #3 11-11-2023, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

If we're talking best regular season bullpen, the Yankees have had much better pens than the '98 one during the last 25 years or so. Might have been years they didn't win a WS or win 114 games, but they've had better pens.

Granted, from what I remember, the times Ramiro Mendoza came out of the pen instead of starting, would make the bullpen look much more impressive on raw numbers. Graeme Lloyd was very effective, but only pitched to 1 or 2 guys per appearance.

Just pick one of David Robertson's better seasons when he is matched up with Mariano, and that pen was likely better then the '98 one.

2011 sticks out.

Mariano Rivera W-L 1-2, 44 Saves, 1.91 ERA, 226 ERA+, 2.9 WAR
David Robertson W-L 4-0, 1 Save, 1.08 ERA, 399 ERA+, 3.7 WAR
Luis Ayala W-L 2-2, 2.09 ERA, 233 ERA+, 1.3 WAR
Boone Logan W-L 5-3, 3.46 ERA, 125 ERA+, 0.4 WAR
Cory Wade W-L 6-1, 2.04 ERA, 212 ERA+, 1.3 WAR
Rafael Soriano W-L 2-3, 2 Saves, 4.12 ERA, 105 ERA+, 0.4 WAR
Joba Chamberlain W-L 2-0, 2.83 ERA, 154 ERA+ , 0.7 WAR

D. Bergin · #4 11-11-2023, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

2011 sticks out.

Mariano Rivera W-L 1-2, 44 Saves, 1.91 ERA, 226 ERA+, 2.9 WAR
David Robertson W-L 4-0, 1 Save, 1.08 ERA, 399 ERA+, 3.7 WAR
Luis Ayala W-L 2-2, 2.09 ERA, 233 ERA+, 1.3 WAR
Boone Logan W-L 5-3, 3.46 ERA, 125 ERA+, 0.4 WAR
Cory Wade W-L 6-1, 2.04 ERA, 212 ERA+, 1.3 WAR
Rafael Soriano W-L 2-3, 2 Saves, 4.12 ERA, 105 ERA+, 0.4 WAR
Joba Chamberlain W-L 2-0, 2.83 ERA, 154 ERA+ , 0.7 WAR

Yeah, that's probably the 1st one that came to mind for me to.

Maybe not the best ever...but pretty damn good.

Also....Cory Wade? His career is a tiny micro-cosm of how inconsistent relievers can be from year to year.

Two really good years, two really bad years.....and a minor league career that was very similar...probably bordering more on the "bad" side of things overall.

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