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Plus we all want our part in the conversation, so not responding is not really a viable option. So instead, we get to debate whether the whole premise of the debate is worthy of debate. And complain, of course. Plus complain about the complaining.
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Trying to wrap up my master mays set, with just a few left: 1968 American Oil left side 1971 Bazooka numbered complete panel Last edited by raulus; 12-04-2023 at 11:18 AM.
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12-04-2023, 11:23 AM
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Because you will get an answer, just not an answer to an unanswerable question. Butch Turner
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“Man proposes and God disposes.” U.S. Grant, July 1, 1885 Completed: 1969 - 2000 Topps Baseball Sets and Traded Sets. Senators and Frank Howard fan. I collect Topps baseball variations -- I can quit anytime I want to.....I DON'T WANT TO.
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A crash is definitely coming. I am 100 percent certain. My stars, Ouija board, palm reading, tea leaves, and tarot cards are all in perfect alignment. My local gypsy concurs as well.
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Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today's hobby: No consequences. Stuff trumps all. The flip is the commoodity. Animal Farm grading. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 12-04-2023 at 11:32 AM.
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If thinking about your cards futures is too much, I am offering my help in taking them off your hands so you can clear your mind. I will pay you only what I want to pay, seeing as thinking about their price is giving you such anxiety.
This is my gift to you. Last edited by packs; 12-04-2023 at 11:44 AM.
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I see no evidence at all that there is a bear market in anything that I collect. To the contrary, prices keep going up.
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12-04-2023, 12:14 PM
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On the other hand, the PSA 7 Mantle that sold last night went for $246K, here: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=160751 It looks like the exact same card went for $336K about 12 months ago: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=125688 So a drop of $90K over the last 12 months. Good for a ~27% decline. We can debate whether that's a crash, a correction, or just someone overpaid in December 2022. But for some things the prices seem to be coming down.
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I could have gotten better deals on two of the three most expensive cards I bought this year by waiting...1953T Robinson, 1954 T Kaline, but probably not the 1948 L Musial. But I don't really feel bad about any of the purchases. All cards I had wanted for a while and now I have them.
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Get my new book Baseball Cards at the Edge of War, 1941: The Games, The Gum and The Glory Last edited by bbcard1; 12-04-2023 at 03:05 PM.
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12-04-2023, 03:13 PM
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Index for vintage sports cards
From PWCC. Just came across this thought it was interesting -
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/mark...&direction=asc Had been hoping that there was a T206 500 index, or something similar, or even thought of creating one to just get an idea of what prices are doing/have done. This is broader, but it does have a handful of t206 cards included in the index.
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No index started by Brent has ever gone down. Good to see we're WAY up since the pandemic peak if I am reading it right. To infinity and beyond!!
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Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today's hobby: No consequences. Stuff trumps all. The flip is the commoodity. Animal Farm grading. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 12-04-2023 at 03:21 PM.
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Also, to answer the OP: It's hard to debate a downturn in cards for modern between November and February, which generally are the doldrums. Come March, modern cards will warm up again and people will forget the winter blues.
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12-04-2023, 03:34 PM
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pricing trends
Conclusions on pricing trends can't be drawn from one auction, but the results last night reinforce that grade continues to be less and less relevant over time to pricing. Premiums for strong centering/color/registration and discounts for poor centering/color/registration are increasing. There is scarcity of the former for many cards, even if the pop is high.
Some comparisons: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=161130 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=161129 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=164229 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=164248 And a couple of other examples of premiums strong centering/color/registration is getting versus average comps: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=161266 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=161953 There hasn't been any weakness in pricing for really nice examples of in-demand cards or sets. Those examples have been and will continue to be less sensitive to any market corrections that are inevitable over time, especially after huge runs.
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12-04-2023, 11:50 AM
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President.
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The internet is full of places you can add no value. Enjoy.
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