Where is the market?...is a "crash" coming

[cornhusker]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Just some food for thought:

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards


Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make!!!

3 month diff and at least 1 less serious bidder

[BabyRuth]

Just some food for thought:

Found another data point

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards

Spring 2018 REA Lot#1651 sold for $39,000

Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make and what a difference 5 years make!!!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Just some food for thought:

Found another data point

1968 Topps 3-D Uncut sheet with Clemente and 2 proof cards

Spring 2018 REA Lot#1651 sold for $39,000

Summer 2023 REA Lot#1402 sold for $29,400

Fall 2023 REA Lot#2149 hi bid $13,000 - not sold reserve not met

Looks like the exact same sheet, with the exact same description for both auctions.

What a difference 3 months make and what a difference 5 years make!!!

Yeah...

Appreciate the added data point, because it helps to suggest that maybe the 2023 sale wasn't a fake sale. Unless we're going to argue that the 2018 sale was also fake. I suppose as long as there can be 1 fake sale, then there can be multiple fake sales. Hell, they might all be fake sales. Aside from my own purchases, I suppose it's hard to really know for sure about anything else.

At the same time, even assuming all of these are good sales, I wouldn't read too much into these data points. This is just too much of a specialty item. A bidder or two can make a big difference, depending on whether they're paying attention, and whether they're in or out of the market at the moment for this piece.