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Old 12-09-2023, 01:37 PM
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Cards don't get bonus points for not having wax stains or print lines. The idea is to start at 10 and then subtract for flaws.

I personally don't think the grading process should be an eye appeal measurement, rather it should be a technical review of the card. It definitely should not be an estimate of the market value.

A 50/50 card with good color and clear focus can sell for double the average price for the grade. And that's the way it should be. We don't need SGC bumping up high eye-appeal cards to the next grade to try and estimate their market value. That would be a mess.



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I see what you're saying. That makes sense. I do like their implemention of half grades though too distinguish strong eye appeal for the grade from average to below average. Basically, they're saying the card is technically a 4, but looks better than most other 4s, so they'll give it a 4.5. I think I'm with you though in that maybe they shouldn't say the card is technically a 4, but the eye appeal is so superior that they'll bump it all the way to a 5 instead of a 4.5 for those super nice 4s.

That said, I should reiterate that I don't know if they are in fact doing this. I just suspect it sometimes.
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Old 12-10-2023, 10:24 AM
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I see what you're saying. That makes sense. I do like their implemention of half grades though too distinguish strong eye appeal for the grade from average to below average. Basically, they're saying the card is technically a 4, but looks better than most other 4s, so they'll give it a 4.5. I think I'm with you though in that maybe they shouldn't say the card is technically a 4, but the eye appeal is so superior that they'll bump it all the way to a 5 instead of a 4.5 for those super nice 4s.

That said, I should reiterate that I don't know if they are in fact doing this. I just suspect it sometimes.
I've heard that too. If a grader really wants to move the card up to the next grade but can't because of a specific defect, he gives it a half-grade bump. Those .5 cards can be very nice.
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Old 12-10-2023, 12:43 PM
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Do you have any examples of the reverse. Where SGC graded a card lower than PSA ?

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Old 12-10-2023, 01:38 PM
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Do you have any examples of the reverse. Where SGC graded a card lower than PSA ?

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I have a few ultra modern cards that bumped from an SGC 9 or 9.5 to a PSA 10. And that 1970 Topps Hank Aaron I posted above was originally an SGC 7, which PSA graded as a 5 the first time, then they graded it as an 8 the second time.
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Do you have any examples of the reverse. Where SGC graded a card lower than PSA ?

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I have a T206 Cobb that was purchased in a SGC 1.5, cracked (not by me) and sent to PSA and came back as a 2.5 which for the record I believe is probably accurate. Purchased it here around 3 years ago.

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I dunno...that stain is pretty significant.
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PSA probably sells a little better overall because they have much greater marketing than SGC. Personally, I buy cards and not holders.
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