Are gentleman's agreements a thing of the past, or did I expect too much?

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Thank you. That’s what I felt as well.

Jim, at the end of the day for you, it is about how you see it and how you feel about it. And what others have said are also valid. Many ways to look at this. It definitely sucks, but this happen all the time. Good luck and hope you find another one soon.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Jim, at the end of the day for you, it is about how you see it and how you feel about it. And what others have said are also valid. Many ways to look at this. It definitely sucks, but this happen all the time. Good luck and hope you find another one soon.

Thank you. Its just all part of my disappointment with people in general these days and how they act. I guess I just grew up differently. I'll find another one. I'm not worried about that.

[molenick]

I am confused about the auction. It was a live auction and the lots were set to go in a specific order with specific items in them, but the auctioneer moved up one of the lots?

And the button you wanted was part of the lot, and you wanted the auctioneer to remove the button from the lot and run it separately (which he did not do)?

People often time out live auctions...for example, if they bid on lot 100 and the next lot they are interested in is lot 200, they might step away for a bit knowing they have some time before the next lot they want. But in the scenario you requested, they could come back and see that lot 200 was moved up and was sold already? And also that it was missing one item which was sold as a new separate lot not previously scheduled?

Or am I misunderstanding something about the initial auction? It sounds like a recipe for chaos if a live auction moves the timing of the lots (which they did do) and also changes what is in the lots (which they did not do but which you asked them to do).

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by molenick

I am confused about the auction. It was a live auction and the lots were set to go in a specific order with specific items in them, but the auctioneer moved up one of the lots?

There was no specific order and its more of a BIN sale than an auction. No lots were numbered or anything like that. It was literally random items on tables and the seller walks around naming prices. It generally goes something like this - "Coke sign $10, box of baseball cards $20, old brown bottle, $5"...If you saw something in a preview photo, it could literally be an hour before the seller showed that item and named a price. When you see an item you want at the price named, you reply and the seller stops, pulls the item and labels it sold to you. It's a bit of organized chaos.

Originally Posted by molenick

And the button you wanted was part of the lot, and you wanted the auctioneer to remove the button from the lot and run it separately (which he did not do)?

The button was not necessarily part of a lot. It was in a "tray" which is how some of these sales run. Some sellers use soda can cardboard trays, shoe box lids, etc. Sometimes they sell everything in a tray as one lot, and sometimes they say "each item in this tray is $5 each, tell me which ones you want" and they sell items individually. You just never know how they're going to sell it. Sometimes they'll start selling the tray as a whole and someone will mention that they want one item and then they separate. Again, organized chaos.

[molenick]

Got it...not what I pictured at all, and thank you for explaining it. I was not familiar with that auction format.

Sorry the post-sale deal did not go through.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by molenick

Got it...not what I pictured at all, and thank you for explaining it. I was not familiar with that auction format.

It threw me off the first time I saw that format as well. You get used to it and its fun. Sometimes, you find some goodies and most of the time, you see crap. I always ask for vintage sports memorabilia and they usually say that they have some 1990 Topps cards....LOL.

[JMEnglish27]

Ugh...sorry that happened. I've been thru a similar incident but not here.

Would definitely give me pause if dealing with the same person ever came up again.