Banned in Florida

Snowman · #1 12-14-2023, 04:23 PM

I can assure you that PWCC does not ban anyone for non-payment within 10 hours of auction end.

Also, several people have expressed concern about GM grades not being quite as reliable as they used to be. Even Greg himself made note of how difficult it is to find good graders or to train graders in a recent podcast interview where he stated that he is no longer doing the grading himself (or at least no longer doing all the grading, which he used to do). I don't know of anyone else that has been banned for making such statements. I've even said this myself, yet no repercussions have come my way.

I suspect if you're being banned, it likely has something to do with something other than not paying within 10 hours of auction end and something other than saying someone's grades aren't as accurate as they used to be.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #2 12-14-2023, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Even Greg himself made note of how difficult it is to find good graders or to train graders in a recent podcast interview where he stated that he is no longer doing the grading himself (or at least no longer doing all the grading, which he used to do).

I am reminded of the following and not singling out any particular person or entity. This pertains to any business, but not adhering to it doesn't seem to affect companies in this hobby:

If you wish to expand, you can't expect success if you thin out your talent pool to the point of consistently making sloppy mistakes. Ha ha.

There are a finite number of knowledgable and talented people to do this work with a strong amount of proficiency. Growing too big and expanding too fast ends up making you look bad as you struggle to hire new "experts" whose actual knowledge base may range from semi-compitent to mediocre to worse. But everyone has their eye mostly on that C-note on the end of the fishing hook and that's what they care about the most.

In our industry, it's become all but laughable, yet people are still spending untold amounts for little pieces of sealed plastic.

Yoda · #3 12-14-2023, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

I can assure you that PWCC does not ban anyone for non-payment within 10 hours of auction end.

Also, several people have expressed concern about GM grades not being quite as reliable as they used to be. Even Greg himself made note of how difficult it is to find good graders or to train graders in a recent podcast interview where he stated that he is no longer doing the grading himself (or at least no longer doing all the grading, which he used to do). I don't know of anyone else that has been banned for making such statements. I've even said this myself, yet no repercussions have come my way.

I suspect if you're being banned, it likely has something to do with something other than not paying within 10 hours of auction end and something other than saying someone's grades aren't as accurate as they used to be.

I don't recall what # PWCC auction it was, say 2 mos. ago, I was the leading bidder on a '55 Bowman Kiner in extended bidding when I went to bed. The following morning I checked the results, found that I did win the card but was now blocked from further auction participation because of non-payment, so it happened to me. I suspect it was a systems glitch that endless exchanges with Customer Service failed to rectify.
As far as Greg Morris is concerned, I believe the reason I am persona non grata is because I said on the board, several here concurring, that I thought his grading standards had slipped a little. End of story.

Aaron Seefeldt · #4 12-15-2023, 01:43 AM

Hey John, I mean Yoda� use the force! I hope you�re well!

Many years ago I was banned by Lew Lipset from participating in his auctions. I had purchased an American Publishing PC of Wagner, this was before PSA, it was raw. He had over graded it so badly that I sent it back. He was furious and banned me from his auctions! I was crushed� I had studied his reference guides obsessively and had looked up to him and not to mention his auctions usually had ridiculously awesome vintage baseball cards!

So what did I do, you ask? I got permission from my brother-in-law to use his name and address! So whenever I called and talked to Lew I disguised my voice and used my brother-in-law�s name.

Shhhhhh! Don�t tell anyone�

ALBB · #5 12-15-2023, 06:42 AM

Ha,
like that now famous NFL coach rant after a tough loss about " we knew who the were !, They knew who we were supposed to be !, etc...

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