1952 topps Mantle how can this be real

G1911 · #1 12-14-2023, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have heard there are some modern soccer cards that regularly fool the graders, although I don't know if that's due to how good they are or to incompetence. In theory this should become more and more of a problem as the technology gets even better.

Considering even 1 heavily stained example of a Mantle is worth ~$10M; I find it difficult to believe that we won't get fakes on stocks that can pass before all that long. The ROI on putting in the work into mimicking period correct printing is just so big that eventually somebody is going to inevitably seriously tackle this as a professional quality operation.

nwobhm · #2 12-14-2023, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Considering even 1 heavily stained example of a Mantle is worth ~$10M; I find it difficult to believe that we won't get fakes on stocks that can pass before all that long. The ROI on putting in the work into mimicking period correct printing is just so big that eventually somebody is going to inevitably seriously tackle this as a professional quality operation.

A premium quality fake doesn�t get caught. IMHO the issue isn�t �if� they exist, the issue is counterfeiters can�t flood a market with hundreds of nice copies without raising suspicion.

G1911 · #3 12-14-2023, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nwobhm

A premium quality fake doesn�t get caught. IMHO the issue isn�t �if� they exist, the issue is counterfeiters can�t flood a market with hundreds of nice copies without raising suspicion.

I don�t believe in this conspiracy theory that the undetectable crime is being committed. We need good fakes before there are premium perfect fakes, we don�t even have good. Someone will need to produce some evidence for this. Every time it comes up, nobody has a shred.

nwobhm · #4 12-14-2023, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I don�t believe in this conspiracy theory that the undetectable crime is being committed. We need good fakes before there are premium perfect fakes, we don�t even have good. Someone will need to produce some evidence for this. Every time it comes up, nobody has a shred.

To each his own

Peter_Spaeth · #5 12-14-2023, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I don’t believe in this conspiracy theory that the undetectable crime is being committed. We need good fakes before there are premium perfect fakes, we don’t even have good. Someone will need to produce some evidence for this. Every time it comes up, nobody has a shred.

I tend to agree. If there were really good fakes now, at least some of them would have been caught and called out, as with the Jordans some of which are pretty damn good. But I don't think we've heard anything about really good fake 311s, just the obvious hack jobs.

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