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Old 12-15-2023, 01:28 PM
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I hate to say it. Im struggling to see how they are any better than using AI to generate a famous baseball image and then making a high resolution print?

This can all be done at virtually no cost.
They're well-designed - very visually attractive. I really doubt AI would come up with anything close to Helmar cards. Also, (I don't own any Helmars myself) but it seems like physically they are nicer than mere hi-res prints.
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They're well-designed - very visually attractive. I really doubt AI would come up with anything close to Helmar cards. Also, (I don't own any Helmars myself) but it seems like physically they are nicer than mere hi-res prints.
Ai couldn't come close at this point in time. The attention to detail (E.g the rolled lace glove on my Red that I shared) and wide variety of players is definitely beyond its capability. We're talking tons of Negro league and obscure 19th century players that don't even have images when googled. You need a human hand to make this quality.
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I think you’re underestimating AI.

You can feed it an image. Which is no different than Helmar imagery, based on existing images.

But if you like them. Collect them I guess.
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I think you’re underestimating AI.

You can feed it an image. Which is no different than Helmar imagery, based on existing images.

But if you like them. Collect them I guess.
There is always something inhuman about Ai art at this point in time. If it can't even do a standard human right, there's no way in hell it could get the intricate details and quality of a historical baseball image. Go feed any ai image generator a helmar card or a script of what you want it to create. Watch the monstrosities it creates that are not even on the same planet of quality.

But I have no doubt it may reach that point one day.

Here's the best I can currently do after spending a while.
Tried to do something helmar might actually make, babe Ruth and satchel paige. Let's just say.... It's not there yet.
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The Babe does look fairly decent, with a distinct Muhammad Ali vibe. And Satchell...perhaps a combination of Ernie Banks and Gary Coleman?

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Tried to do something helmar might actually make, babe Ruth and satchel paige. Let's just say.... It's not there yet.
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The Babe does look fairly decent, with a distinct Muhammad Ali vibe. And Satchell...perhaps a combination of Ernie Banks and Gary Coleman?

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Yea, babes not bad. But I expected that because there are so many images of reference for Ai to use. The main issues are the logos seemingly turned into hieroglyphics and satchels glove seemingly designed for a webbed foot. As well as baseball bats floating in the sky behind them.
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Not a fan of AI whatsoever. I mean, look at how perfectly centered their Babe Ruth creation is!!!

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