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Old 12-30-2023, 09:49 AM
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Default Ruth ungraded D 350-1 real or fake

I have an opportunity to buy this ungraded Ruth D 350 -1 ...... suspicious yes but I also noticed it appears to be the same card as one auctioned off in a Mile High Auction years back. enclosed is the link to the auction

https://www.milehighcardco.com/spect...-lot63709.aspx

here are the photos of the current offering - looking closely all the markings and creases are exactly the same. the back is printed fine (no stamping) Why would it have been broken out of a PSA holder. The lower corners seem sharper BUT they both have the same markings

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25635441697...3Avlp_homepage
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Old 12-30-2023, 09:53 AM
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I have an opportunity to buy this ungraded Ruth D 350 -1 ...... suspicious yes but I also noticed it appears to be the same card as one auctioned off in a Mile High Auction years back. enclosed is the link to the auction

https://www.milehighcardco.com/spect...-lot63709.aspx

here are the photos of the current offering - looking closely all the markings and creases are exactly the same. the back is printed fine (no stamping) Why would it have been broken out of a PSA holder. The lower corners seem sharper BUT they both have the same markings

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25635441697...3Avlp_homepage
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I own the standard biscuit PSA 2 Ruth that was sold in mile high. It sits in my safe. Not sure what you are looking at, but whatever it is, it’s not my card. And there are only 3-4 known Ruth SB combos.

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Old 12-30-2023, 12:27 PM
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I just looked at the eBay listing - that is fake.

Honestly, these types of postings/questions burn me up - yea right! Go ahead and buy for $3500, a super rare Ruth Rookie, unslabbed, from a guy out of Puerto Rico with 11 feedback. Use your fucking head - does anything (literally one thing) about that sound legit?
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I just looked at the eBay listing - that is fake.

Honestly, these types of postings/questions burn me up - yea right! Go ahead and buy for $3500, a super rare Ruth Rookie, unslabbed, from a guy out of Puerto Rico with 11 feedback. Use your fucking head - does anything (literally one thing) about that sound legit?
Well at least he asked. Of course if there was any chance it was real he just outed it lol.
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Here are (3) cards that aren't as milky white as the ones I 've seen in this thread. Perhaps mine are older (snicker, snicker ). I've had these cards for a couple/few decades and I'm pretty sure they're legitimate. I'd say, "hey, they're graded by SGC so they have to be authentic". But we all know that's a joke these days.

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i just looked at the ebay listing - that is fake.

Honestly, these types of postings/questions burn me up - yea right! Go ahead and buy for $3500, a super rare ruth rookie, unslabbed, from a guy out of puerto rico with 11 feedback. Use your fucking head - does anything (literally one thing) about that sound legit?
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I just looked at the eBay listing - that is fake.

Honestly, these types of postings/questions burn me up - yea right! Go ahead and buy for $3500, a super rare Ruth Rookie, unslabbed, from a guy out of Puerto Rico with 11 feedback. Use your fucking head - does anything (literally one thing) about that sound legit?
What seems legit from all this, and my takeaway, is that there are guys in Puerto Rico.

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I have an opportunity to buy this ungraded Ruth D 350 -1 ...... suspicious yes but I also noticed it appears to be the same card as one auctioned off in a Mile High Auction years back. enclosed is the link to the auction

https://www.milehighcardco.com/spect...-lot63709.aspx

here are the photos of the current offering - looking closely all the markings and creases are exactly the same. the back is printed fine (no stamping) Why would it have been broken out of a PSA holder. The lower corners seem sharper BUT they both have the same markings

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25635441697...3Avlp_homepage


Yeah, why would it be broken out of a PSA holder? Because it wasn't. Someone is going to be rather disappointed with a $3500 fake Ruth.
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I was getting confused reading the thread. Is the D350 in POST 9 the "suspect" card?

A little research seems to indicate that these cards could have come with blank backs which allowed advertisers to put their own stamps on them. If so, how much more $value does the "Standard Bisquit" stamp add to the card (as opposed to a blank back version)?

In an effort to educate myself on the D350, I went to the Old Cardboard website and found the following info:

Subset Name D350-1
Year of Issue 1916
Card Size (inches) 1-5/8 x 3
Num. of Cards in Set 200
Cards Numbered? yes yes no
Related Sets: M101-4, D329, H801-9


D350-2
Year of Issue: 1917
Card Size (inches) 2 x 3-1/4
Num. of Cards in Set 200
Cards Numbered? yes
Related Sets: E135, D328, H801-8



D350-3
Year of Issue: 1921
Card Size (inches) 2 x 3-1/4
Num. of Cards in Set 80
Cards Numbered? no
Related Sets: E121, D327

Note: The D350 Type 1 and 2 subsets are listed in the American Card Catalog and in the Sports Collectors Bible with Type 1 as an 80 card set of "large" (2 x 3-1/4 inch) cards and Type 2 as a 200 card set of 1-5/8 x 3 inch cards. The sets as defined above are consistent with most hobby checklists today but are not consistent with the descriptions in the ACC and SCB.

I'm no expert on this issue but if I were to guess, I'd guess the cards in POST 4 look suspect only because the stamps appear to be very "light".
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