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Old 01-03-2024, 04:31 PM
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Old 01-03-2024, 04:38 PM
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I expected the 2 year price spikes but surprised by the big drop off in the number of them in 2023.

I would think the number would be similar in 2024 as 2023.
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Old 01-03-2024, 04:54 PM
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My guess would be there will always be some vintage cards that sell for a million plus. Whether those sales are reported is another story. I think the overall number of million plus sales will stay down because like the junk wax era modern became a victim of its own success. Too many green and red refactors and YouTube videos of people opening bulletproof looking suitcases that hold this junk.
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It had to be almost all modern. Or put differently, there just are not that many vintage cards that sell for over $1mm. Aside from the BN Ruth and the t206 Wagner and Doyle, I can’t think of any card that would sell for more than $1mm in pre war department; maybe a higher grade, super rare back 1916 Ruth or a nice T210 Jackson, but not even the W600 Cobb, W600 Type 1 Wagner, W600 Type 2 Matty, any e107, t206, 1914 CJ, etc, of any grade, goes over $1mm (or anywhere close).

That leaves maybe a few cards from the 50’s and 60’s that are graded super high - 52 Topps mantle or Mays, maybe a PSA 10 54 Aaron, 55 Clemente, 49-52 Robinson. A PSA registry buy…

I just don’t see there being many single vintage cards that sell over $1mm, even in the go-go years of 2021 and 2022.
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I came close to buying a million dollar Jasson Dominguez refractor. Then the drugs wore off.
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Good one. Imagine the next morning waking up next to the invoice on your phone in the bed with you and wondering what happened!
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It had to be almost all modern. Or put differently, there just are not that many vintage cards that sell for over $1mm. Aside from the BN Ruth and the t206 Wagner and Doyle, I can’t think of any card that would sell for more than $1mm in pre war department; maybe a higher grade, super rare back 1916 Ruth or a nice T210 Jackson, but not even the W600 Cobb, W600 Type 1 Wagner, W600 Type 2 Matty, any e107, t206, 1914 CJ, etc, of any grade, goes over $1mm (or anywhere close).

That leaves maybe a few cards from the 50’s and 60’s that are graded super high - 52 Topps mantle or Mays, maybe a PSA 10 54 Aaron, 55 Clemente, 49-52 Robinson. A PSA registry buy…

I just don’t see there being many single vintage cards that sell over $1mm, even in the go-go years of 2021 and 2022.
Maybe this was already mentioned, but didn't a '33 Goudey Ruth #53 PSA 9 sell for over $4 in the same auction as a #181 Goudey Ruth PSA 9 that went for over $1M?
https://www.beckett.com/news/1933-go...r-4-2-million/
Not sure if those would reach a million again.

And true Mantle rookies have eclipsed $3M and a Gehrig Rookie Exhibit eclipsed $1M

Not sure if a '51 Bowman Mays graded in 9 (I don't know if there are any 10s) could reach $1 Million.
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Not sure if a '51 Bowman Mays graded in 9 (I don't know if there are any 10s) could reach $1 Million.
I think you actually would probably get to 7 figures with Mays 52T in PSA 9 (pop 9) and definitely in PSA 10 (pop 1). If I remember the rumors correctly, pre-pandemic a Mays 52T in PSA 9 went for as much as $750K in a privately brokered sale.

Mays 53T in PSA 9 or PSA 10 would probably be similarly likely to hit 7 figures, although part of the story there is that PSA 9 is pop 1, and PSA 10 is also pop 1. So us set registry goons would be a big part of the story there.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Mays 51B at PSA 9 (pop 8) would get to a cool $1M. Assuming it was a nice example, of course, and not merely an over-graded early slab. There are none in PSA 10.
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Maybe this was already mentioned, but didn't a '33 Goudey Ruth #53 PSA 9 sell for over $4 in the same auction as a #181 Goudey Ruth PSA 9 that went for over $1M?
https://www.beckett.com/news/1933-go...r-4-2-million/
Not sure if those would reach a million again.

And true Mantle rookies have eclipsed $3M and a Gehrig Rookie Exhibit eclipsed $1M

Not sure if a '51 Bowman Mays graded in 9 (I don't know if there are any 10s) could reach $1 Million.
Nice call. So as you and Scott point out, there are other $1mm+ prewar cards in addition to T206 wagner + Doyle and BN Ruth, specifically a W600 Cobb, nice looking and higher grade 1916 Ruths (or rare backs), and super high grade 1933 Goudey Ruths. Still, very few prewar cards will crest anywhere near $1mm compared to what we saw in the modern world, especially in 2021 and 2022.
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If I am not mistaken a PSA 7 Ruth rookie has sold for over $2 million. The last PSA 4 Famous and Barr Ruth sold for about 3/4 million with tax so I would imagine that a nice PSA 5 might eclipse that barrier.
That said, I agree with Ryan; I don’t see many vintage baseball cards of that quality coming to auction in any particular year. I would guess that in 2024 five or less baseball cards eclipse that level.
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HA a has a $1 million estimate on the PSA 6 1915 RED SOX team real photo postcard with Ruth that is in their February auction. Perhaps that will be the first vintage baseball card to break that barrier in 2024. I’m sure if it does it will shatter the record for the most expensive postcard ever.
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