Every slabbed card has a story, don't it?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I know it is off topic but I am on a watch forum. They have shown Rolex replicas so good you can exchange any piece on them with a real Rolex part.

The serial number would still prevent one from being sold as the real thing to a diligent buyer, is that right?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The serial number would still prevent one from being sold as the real thing to a diligent buyer, is that right?

I am far from an expert on replica Rolex watches but from the very little I have heard/read about. The top end fakes use random serial numbers on each watch just like real ones. Supposedly the cheap ones use the same serial number on every watch.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am far from an expert on replica Rolex watches but from the very little I have heard/read about. The top end fakes use random serial numbers on each watch just like real ones. Supposedly the cheap ones use the same serial number on every watch.

But you can check the numbers with Rolex, no?

[Peter_Spaeth]

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[Eric72]

A few people mentioned the Wagner and stories that it was cut from a sheet. I’ve seen a five card strip. This photo is from the Hager book. Have there been documented instances of larger panels/strips of T206 cards?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Eric72

A few people mentioned the Wagner and stories that it was cut from a sheet. I’ve seen a five card strip. This photo is from the Hager book. Have there been documented instances of larger panels/strips of T206 cards?

Off the top, there exists for ATC product cards:

T25 - A large part of a sheet, later destroyed and cut into strips

T51 - 12 card proofing sheet, not production size

T62 - 12 card proofing sheet, not productions size, and part of another

T107 - 13 card proofing sheet, not production size.

T206 - the mysterious Wagner strip that is on a different stock

T220 Silver - 96% of a sheet, cut into 8 card panels

E229 - significant part of a sheet, also cut into panels and with multiple owners.


Not for the ATC, but from one of their printers, exists a partial proof sheet with most of the T225 subjects in Fullgraff's book.

EDT: Also separate and notable is the T212 Obak sheet and strips, and the destroyed before being photographed T204 Ramly sheet. But these are from different companies and probably are not relevant as to what was done with T206.

Can't think of anything else from the top of my head that is provably known and extant.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by G1911

Off the top, there exists for ATC product cards:

T25 - A large part of a sheet, later destroyed and cut into strips

T51 - 12 card proofing sheet, not production size

T62 - 12 card proofing sheet, not productions size, and part of another

T107 - 13 card proofing sheet, not production size.

T206 - the mysterious Wagner strip that is on a different stock

T220 Silver - 96% of a sheet, cut into 8 card panels

E229 - significant part of a sheet, also cut into panels and with multiple owners.


Not for the ATC, but from one of their printers, exists a partial proof sheet with most of the T225 subjects in Fullgraff's book.

EDT: Also separate and notable is the T212 Obak sheet and strips, and the destroyed before being photographed T204 Ramly sheet. But these are from different companies and probably are not relevant as to what was done with T206.

Can't think of anything else from the top of my head that is provably known and extant.

Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know if the T206 Wagner strip you mentioned is the same one I posted a picture of?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But you can check the numbers with Rolex, no?

Not sure, I like watches but don't get into the technical stuff. I know some people that complain about the change to random serial numbers by Rolex. Before you could easily date a watch from the serial number and now not so much with the newer ones.