2024 Baseball Hall of Fame Tracker

Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-21-2024, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I wouldn't put Mariano in either.

His team played 1,450 plus innings each year, he played 67 1/2.

If he was so good why did he play so little?

He seldom entered a game where his team had less than a 90% chance of winning. What other player is ever in a situation that he always has a 90% chance of success?

https://retrosheet.org/Research/Smit...fTheCloser.pdf

The only thing I'll give him credit for is having a beautiful autograph in an era of scribbles.

To his credit, his WHIP was outstanding.

paul · #2 01-21-2024, 11:00 PM

Doug, thanks for posting that article about closers. It's amazing and confirms what I always thought to be true. A team's chances of winning in a "save" situation has not improved with the introduction of closers. It really calls into question the value of closers, and why teams spend so much on them.

doug.goodman · #3 01-22-2024, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul

Doug, thanks for posting that article about closers. It's amazing and confirms what I always thought to be true. A team's chances of winning in a "save" situation has not improved with the introduction of closers. It really calls into question the value of closers, and why teams spend so much on them.

Don't thank me, thank David Smith, who is more deserving of a plaque at Cooperstown than Mariano (and others).

doug.goodman · #4 01-22-2024, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To his credit, his WHIP was outstanding.

I don't dispute that he was great at doing the job he was asked to perform, I just posit that the job he was tasked with performing was not / is not / will not be worthy of HOF consideration due to the minimal amount of time he spent on the field.

If Freddie Lynn had become incapacitated after his ROTY/MVP season, would he have gone into the HOF?

He played a similar amount of innings that year as Rivera played in his entire career.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Your thoughts on the 2024 Football Hall of Fame semi finalists?	Chuck9788	Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk	10	07-28-2023 10:15 AM
What does the Hall-of-Fame Tracker Indicate?	clydepepper	Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk	41	01-29-2022 06:18 PM
2022 Baseball Hall of Fame - tracker	Dead-Ball-Hitter	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	100	01-26-2022 02:16 PM
Show Something That Could Be in the Baseball Hall of Fame	Bpm0014	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	98	06-06-2019 09:28 AM
Baseball Hall of Fame	Brianruns10	Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk	33	10-06-2015 07:17 PM