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Old 01-22-2024, 09:18 AM
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Isn't this Hoyt Wilhelm? Wilhelm is one of the most underrated players in the HOF. He did save 228 games, but he pitched in over 1,000 games and clearly wasn't only in the game to notch the 9th.

He's also a challenge to this failed starter hypothesis. The one season they took the leash off Wilhelm led the league in ERA as a starter.
oddly he WAS a failed starter in the minors, likely the typical issues of mastering the knuckler. Then prejudices against his age and his favorite pitch made teams reluctant to start him despite his success as an MLB starter.

People also forget that Gossage was an All-Star his one season as a starter, he had a fantastic first half and then fell off. He needed to learn to pace himself a little better. So, failure with an asterisk
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So who (besides Beltre) is going to get the call tomorrow?
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So who (besides Beltre) is going to get the call tomorrow?
I think Beltre and Mauer will get in. Wagner and Sheffield will both fall short of 75%. Helton looks like a coin toss, but I think he may just miss by a few votes.
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Idk how mauer gets in and Andrew Jones is held out
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Still cant see how Mauer gets in first ballot. Begs the question are we putting guys in as an answer to PEDS.
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Still cant see how Mauer gets in first ballot. Begs the question are we putting guys in as an answer to PEDS.
Yeah. I thought Mauer would make the HOF, but I wouldn't have guessed 1st ballot...or 2nd...and wouldn't be shocked to see it 5th+
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I figured Mauer and Posey were going to be tied together in terms of Hall paths but if Mauer gets in first ballot, they might as well put Buster in now and waive the waiting period.
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