Help identifying possible fake w517 Rogers Hornsby

[Dbcstl]

This was the message I sent to pcbcomicsandsports

After further review of the picture of this card I believe it to either be altered, inauthentic, or the picture misrepresented or photoshopped. I want it to be legitimate as I really do want the card, I just can't ignore the issue I'm seeing. Can you please send me further images front and back of the card I bid on to ease my concerns? I know there can be a secondary reason you would put a card like this in a lot to not have deal with eBay authentication, but that adds to the fear it isn't what it should be.

The reponses

Hi,

The card is 100 percent authentic. This card was purchased from one of the largest auction houses in the United States and is being sold on consignment. I've been a top rated seller on eBay for more than 20 years.

Thanks,

Bobby

And then-

Hi,

I was also going to say that if you're having concerns with the card I can just sell it to the runner up bidder if you prefer or I can re list the card. Either way works for me if you don't want it.

Thanks,

Bobby

[Smarti5051]

There is almost ZERO reason to throw in $1 worth of junk wax cards into that auction to make it a "lot." That is like adding a Tide Pod and a paper clip to a Morton's steak plate. Unless he can articulate a VERY credible reason why he felt it necessary to add a bunch of junk wax cards to make the auction a lot, I would run away fast. Not to mention, he claims the card is being sold on consignment. Did the consignor give him the Hornsby and then 6 random junk wax cards and request they be sold as a lot?

I should also note that he only vouched as to the card's authenticity, not your concern that the card has been altered. I don't know the issue well enough to speak to the authenticity/condition, but on the surface the listing seems shady.

[Dbcstl]

Originally Posted by Smarti5051

There is almost ZERO reason to throw in $1 worth of junk wax cards into that auction to make it a "lot." That is like adding a Tide Pod and a paper clip to a Morton's steak plate. Unless he can articulate a VERY credible reason why he felt it necessary to add a bunch of junk wax cards to make the auction a lot, I would run away fast. Not to mention, he claims the card is being sold on consignment. Did the consignor give him the Hornsby and then 6 random junk wax cards and request they be sold as a lot?

I should also note that he only vouched as to the card's authenticity, not your concern that the card has been altered. I don't know the issue well enough to speak to the authenticity/condition, but on the surface the listing seems shady.

They rather notoriously list 100s of pretty mint looking raw vintage cards a week with these junk wax lots to get around eBay's authentication, which in most cases is rather annoying, as they aren't going to do anything about altered or trimmed cards, just fakes to my knowledge... On non graded cards I agree it comes off a bit shady.

[cgjackson222]

Its probably trimmed. Could be airbrushed too. Did you see this thread about the seller?

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=335127