More Evidence We Live in a Sick, Sick World:

Republicaninmass · #1 02-05-2024, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

There�s no doubt that the vast majority of people get along just fine. My comment was directed more towards the small groups who are still hanging on to hate and division. They�re the ones who just need to let shit go and get along with everyone else. Unfortunately, they�re the ones that get all the press.

Maybe don't invoke Rodney King next time.

It is satisfying to see you try and deflect.

Vintagedeputy · #2 02-05-2024, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Maybe don't invoke Rodney King next time.

It is satisfying to see you try and deflect.

No one is invoking Rodney King, so I�m not even sure where you got that from and I�m certainly not deflecting. My point is the same. There are groups here in Richmond that seem to want to remember the Civil War and still try to fight it. I see it every day. There�s also groups who want to riot and tear down statues instead of doing things the proper way. Those are the groups at odds with each other, and the rest of us are just caught in the middle.

jefferyepayne · #3 02-05-2024, 08:34 AM

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

Vintagedeputy · #4 02-05-2024, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

Well said.

Republicaninmass · #5 02-05-2024, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant.

And for those looking at this as a political statement, the reality is that there are extremists on BOTH sides that fit this description ... they're just intolerant on different issues. Blaming the 'other side' is a huge part of the problem in this country IMHO.

Regardless of the motive, cutting down that statue and burning it is despicable.

jeff

Agreed. Generalizing and finger pointing have polarized the country. Whereas a small percentage, the outliers, seem to garner the most attention and people are "lumped" Into groups

The idiots tried to melt it in a trash can. Regardless of race creed or religion. They are idiots! Highly doubt it was race motivated. Although either side can likely find a ulterior motive once the person are caught. I won't pontificate on where the dividing line will be based on perps ethnic demographic

kcohen · #6 02-05-2024, 10:14 AM

Occam’s razor? Probably can’t rule out good ole vandalism for the sake of good ole vandalism.

gunboat82 · #7 02-05-2024, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Agreed. Generalizing and finger pointing have polarized the country. Whereas a small percentage, the outliers, seem to garner the most attention and people are "lumped" Into groups

The idiots tried to melt it in a trash can. Regardless of race creed or religion. They are idiots! Highly doubt it was race motivated. Although either side can likely find a ulterior motive once the person are caught. I won't pontificate on where the dividing line will be based on perps ethnic demographic

You just did.

Republicaninmass · #8 02-05-2024, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gunboat82

You just did.

Finger in your holster already?

Username checks out

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gunboat82 · #9 02-05-2024, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Finger in your holster already?

Username checks out

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Nah, you've got it covered with your double-barrel action.

Cliff Bowman · #10 02-05-2024, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I won't pontificate on where the dividing line will be based on perps ethnic demographic.

If the people who absconded with the Jackie Robinson statue are bronze/brass/copper/aluminum scrapping meth addicts as I suspect then they are more than likely white.

calvindog · #11 02-05-2024, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

No one is invoking Rodney King, so I’m not even sure where you got that from and I’m certainly not deflecting. My point is the same. There are groups here in Richmond that seem to want to remember the Civil War and still try to fight it. I see it every day. There’s also groups who want to riot and tear down statues instead of doing things the proper way. Those are the groups at odds with each other, and the rest of us are just caught in the middle.

There are pro-Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthi riots all over cities in America right now. There are Michigan religious leaders praising the Oct 7 terror attacks in Israel. Bridges, train stations and airports in NYC have been shut down by protesters calling for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel and America. I'm fully armed walking to my office now, as there have been violent protests right in front of my building. If any of the protesters believed I was Jewish I'd be attacked in a second.

You'll excuse me if I find this more concerning than a fucking statue that was stolen, the political motive behind it still unknown. I can promise you that the people calling for my head outside my office last week were not Republicans. The country is divided, is my point, and the Jackie Robinson statue being stolen is not the best example of it.

BobbyStrawberry · #12 02-05-2024, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

There are pro-Hamas/Hezbollah/Houthi riots all over cities in America right now. There are Michigan religious leaders praising the Oct 7 terror attacks in Israel. Bridges, train stations and airports in NYC have been shut down by protesters calling for the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel and America. I'm fully armed walking to my office now, as there have been violent protests right in front of my building. If any of the protesters believed I was Jewish I'd be attacked in a second.

You'll excuse me if I find this more concerning than a fucking statue that was stolen, the political motive behind it still unknown. I can promise you that the people calling for my head outside my office last week were not Republicans. The country is divided, is my point, and the Jackie Robinson statue being stolen is not the best example of it.

Well, this thread has officially gone off the rails.

gunboat82 · #13 02-05-2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Well, this thread has officially gone off the rails.

I certainly didn't have "I'm more persecuted than blacks are right now" on my stolen Jackie Robinson statue bingo card, but here we are.

For what it's worth, I have enough bandwidth to simultaneously condemn anti-semitic terrorism and acknowledge that racism against blacks is still a significant problem. Getting a raw deal isn't a zero-sum game.

If the Hank Greenberg statue outside Comerica is cut off at the feet and left in a burn barrel, I promise not to shout down any speculation that it could be something more than meth addicts looking for scrap. And if it turns out it really is just meth addicts looking for scrap, then I won't think any less of those who initially feared that it was motivated by animus.

BobbyStrawberry · #14 02-05-2024, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gunboat82

I certainly didn't have "I'm more persecuted than blacks are right now" on my stolen Jackie Robinson statue bingo card, but here we are.

For what it's worth, I have enough bandwidth to simultaneously condemn anti-semitic terrorism and acknowledge that racism against blacks is still a significant problem. Getting a raw deal isn't a zero-sum game.

If the Hank Greenberg statue outside Comerica is cut off at the feet and left in a burn barrel, I promise not to shout down any speculation that it could be something more than meth addicts looking for scrap. And if it turns out it really is just meth addicts looking for scrap, then I won't think any less of those who initially feared that it was motivated by animus.

Very well said and I completely agree.

G1911 · #15 02-05-2024, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone.

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Well said!

This thread went off the rails when a series of politically expedient assumptions without a single shred of available evidence to support them were immediately made, and then quickly pivoted into openly arguing that people who don't share their leftist views should be made to be "out of the way and gone." I wonder how the elimination of dissenters would be accomplished? How does a political faction get "out of the way and gone" with huge swaths of the citizen population?

I am much more concerned by the growing open hope of the eradication of everyone else by the 'tolerant' than I am 3 dudes stealing a statue for unknown reason at this point in time.

calvindog · #16 02-05-2024, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

This thread went off the rails when a series of politically expedient assumptions without a single shred of available evidence to support them were immediately made, and then quickly pivoted into openly arguing that people who don't share their leftist views should be made to be "out of the way and gone." I wonder how the elimination of dissenters would be accomplished? How does a political faction get "out of the way and gone" with huge swaths of the citizen population?

I am much more concerned by the growing open hope of the eradication of everyone else by the 'tolerant' than I am 3 dudes stealing a statue for unknown reason at this point in time.

Very well said and I completely agree.

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