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Old 02-20-2024, 03:13 PM
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Wha? Is it rarer than the Cobb and WaJo in that set?
no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.
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no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.
Johnson has very few portrait cards and his M116 is far from abundant. No blue, but I bought a pastel not long ago for a tiny fraction of what a Wagner would now cost.
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Johnson has very few portrait cards and his M116 is far from abundant. No blue, but I bought a pastel not long ago for a tiny fraction of what a Wagner would now cost.
you're usually one step ahead of the pumpers, Pete! I've always liked m116's for their more realistic images over t206 and their relative scarcity comparatively.
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no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.
My 9/10/23 post in this thread has a POP breakdown of Wagner playing days cards: at that time there were 3,576. I had a Cobb POP count I was working on but ran out of steam after over 100 variations and 10K+ cards…by comparison Joe Jackson playing days cards which I also created a total POP post on are fewer than 1,500…
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My 9/10/23 post in this thread has a POP breakdown of Wagner playing days cards: at that time there were 3,576. I had a Cobb POP count I was working on but ran out of steam after over 100 variations and 10K+ cards…by comparison Joe Jackson playing days cards which I also created a total POP post on are fewer than 1,500…
While Wagner holds the top spot ala T206, Cobb far outweighs the Dutchman in aesthetically pleasing cards.
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Crazy valuations!

The M116 Wags pastel must be 25K-40k+? now....in a 5 holder.
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Crazy valuations!

The M116 Wags pastel must be 25K-40k+? now....in a 5 holder.
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Doubt it. More like 25-30k
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Older holder and soft card for the grade will hold this one back..
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Doubt it. More like 25-30k
Pastel 4.5 and 3.5 already got $30K and $23.4K respectively last year. An "A" got $13.2K.

Crazy prices compared to a few years ago, but I get the high demand for Wagner portraits.
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