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Old 02-24-2024, 09:46 PM
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By WAR, Johnson is something like 50 points ahead of Mathewson, but a few behind Young. By JAWS, Johnson is a bit ahead of Young, and hugely ahead of Mathewson. Mathewson of course pitched for a much better team and had more success, but I don't see it as even close. Maybe you could argue Young is the GOAT, it wouldn't be insane, but I would say Johnson..
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By WAR, Johnson is something like 50 points ahead of Mathewson, but a few behind Young. By JAWS, Johnson is a bit ahead of Young, and hugely ahead of Mathewson. Mathewson of course pitched for a much better team and had more success, but I don't see it as even close. Maybe you could argue Young is the GOAT, it wouldn't be insane, but I would say Johnson..
I would argue that saying Young is the GOAT would in fact be insane. He shouldn't even be in anyone's top 20.

WaJo was probably a little bit better than Mathewson though. But I think it's a little bit closer than most people probably do.
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With apologies that I never get sick of posting these, they're tied if you are counting different m113 photos...
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Johnson and Young have credible greatest of all-time arguments. Mathewson is pretty far behind by the numbers, but that's because he's compared to those two. I don't see any reasonable argument that Mathewson had a better career.
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Walter P. "Barney" Johnson. "The Big Train". Pitcher for the Washington Senators in 1907-1927. 417 wins and 34 saves in 21 MLB seasons. 1924 World Series champion. 1913 and 1924 AL Most Valuable Player. 3-time triple crown. 6-time AL wins leader. 5-time AL ERA leader. 12-time AL strikeout leader. He had a career ERA of 2.17 in 5,914.1 innings pitched. He pitched a no-hitter in 1920. He holds the MLB record with 110 career shutouts. MLB All-Time Team. Inducted to the MLB Hall of Fame in 1936. One of his best seasons was 1913 as he posted a record of 36-7 with a 1.14 ERA in 346 innings pitched.
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