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Old 02-26-2024, 07:07 PM
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I'm a big fan of CGC holders for my PC. I'd probably send them everything if I never cared about resale value. I hope they continue to make more inroads into the vintage space (or just sports cards in general).

Although if SGC were to ever come out with a new holder that is similar to the CGC one, in addition to their current holder, giving collectors a choice, then I would probably never send another card to any other TPG ever again.
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As far as any "AI" grading options making its way to the vintage sector, I see that as highly unlikely. I work in AI, I'm a data scientist, and I'll spare you the details but grading vintage cards accurately through any sort of automation or "AI" process is much more difficult than grading ultra modern cards. I'm not convinced that "AI" will ever outperform human grading in this hobby. But I've been wrong before.
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Where CGC has a real opportunity is with sub-$500 cards. Sending cheaper cards to PSA is cost-prohibitive. Their prices eat up too much of the margin for resale.

One thing I tested about GCG is slab toughness and they pass. Opening those suckers is hard work. I had to cut off a lot of the top before I could get a screwdriver in the gap and crack it the rest of the way.
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As far as any "AI" grading options making its way to the vintage sector, I see that as highly unlikely. I work in AI, I'm a data scientist, and I'll spare you the details but grading vintage cards accurately through any sort of automation or "AI" process is much more difficult than grading ultra modern cards. I'm not convinced that "AI" will ever outperform human grading in this hobby. But I've been wrong before.
Curious if you think any of the big three are using it now. My guess is yes, but more so for identification and sizing of cards, not for grading.
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Curious if you think any of the big three are using it now. My guess is yes, but more so for identification and sizing of cards, not for grading.
No, they're definitely not using it to grade cards. None of them. PSA is using it currently to detect counterfeit cards though.
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There will always be other tpg (non big 3) around to try and steal the competition away but will fade away eventually due to not enough support. I think they are a waste of time & $..

As far as CSG / CGC I do not own one slab, again, I do not love them nor hate them. I’m just not sold on their product and I feel I’m not alone here with this.
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