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Old 02-29-2024, 09:45 AM
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Unless Nat starts grading cards himself, I think this is a postive for the hobby. I think CGC will move up too...
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Why do you think that, Leon?

My first reaction was the opposite...
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The last time I spoke to SGC, at a National, they told me that Dave F was behind the curtain grading cards. Think about that for a minute.

Do I really need to say anything else?

ps... I think this bodes very well for CGC too...

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Why do you think that, Leon?

My first reaction was the opposite...
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One man's take from Blowout/BODA.

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LOL, isn't that pretty much how every single company in the history of time has worked?
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LOL, isn't that pretty much how every single company in the history of time has worked?
There are some uncomfortable truths in this business. Card doctoring and bidding shenanigans are endemic. Many are ignorant, turn a blind eye, or don't care. In the end, stuff prevails.
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There are some uncomfortable truths in this business. Card doctoring and bidding shenanigans are endemic. Many are ignorant, turn a blind eye, or don't care. In the end, stuff prevails.
i just hope "Stuff" continues to prevail until I'm ready to exit the "hobby!"
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i just hope "Stuff" continues to prevail until I'm ready to exit the "hobby!"
I honestly wish you the best on that. It is beyond amazing to me the carnival ride has lasted this long.
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The last time I spoke to SGC, at a National, they told me that Dave F was behind the curtain grading cards. Think about that for a minute.

Do I really need to say anything else?

ps... I think this bodes very well for CGC too...
Hmm, yes that's troubling.

It might be time for me to give CGC a try.
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The last time I spoke to SGC, at a National, they told me that Dave F was behind the curtain grading cards. Think about that for a minute.

Do I really need to say anything else?

ps... I think this bodes very well for CGC too...
If the rumors are true about Dave, then doesn't that suggest he is more equipped to detect alterations than just about anyone? I cannot see how SGC's acquisition will be good for the collectors in the long run but the hobby is not about collectors any longer, as someone posted earlier.

Until one of these companies makes an announcement, which will be short on facts, I could see the value of SGC dropping dramatically and submissions being down too.
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Read what BODA said in the link provided by Peter in this thread, and get back with me on that.
BODA is so valuable to the hobby I would probably let him on this forum regardless of his anonymity.

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If the rumors are true about Dave, then doesn't that suggest he is more equipped to detect alterations than just about anyone? I cannot see how SGC's acquisition will be good for the collectors in the long run but the hobby is not about collectors any longer, as someone posted earlier.

Until one of these companies makes an announcement, which will be short on facts, I could see the value of SGC dropping dramatically and submissions being down too.
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SGC has been very open about the fact that their principals and employees can submit their own. People just don't seem to care, as long as those turnaround times are solid.
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So, if my SGC slabs are going to collapse 50% in value due to this merger/avoidance of SGC panic (OMG!!!), aren't my PSA slabs gonna appreciate by 50% (gotta have PSA ONLY!!) and thus the whole thing is much to do about nothing wash?!?!?!? LOL
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Read what BODA said in the link provided by Peter in this thread, and get back with me on that.
BODA is so valuable to the hobby I would probably let him on this forum regardless of his anonymity.

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Your comment was about Dave being in the grading room.

My point was not if it is good to have a guy with Dave's rep owning a grading company but might not be had having someone who has Dave's rep as a grader.
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First official announcement...oy...

www.gosgc.com/SGC-Joins-Collectors

https://www.facebook.com/sgcgrading/ From Peter S.
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First official announcement...oy...

www.gosgc.com/SGC-Joins-Collectors

https://www.facebook.com/sgcgrading/ From Peter S.
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Doesn’t Dave grade Cards because he’s one of the best vintage graders out there I mean I thought it was him Scott and Derek that was the best that SGC had or still have the only one that’s gone is Derek I believe
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The last time I spoke to SGC, at a National, they told me that Dave F was behind the curtain grading cards. Think about that for a minute.

Do I really need to say anything else?

ps... I think this bodes very well for CGC too...
oh, oh,
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