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Old 03-20-2024, 09:41 PM
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out as CGC has a signature series for comics were approved witness' can get something signed and it is put in a yellow signature series holder. I was waiting to see if they would do that with cards as well, but that has not happened.

On the flip side was CGC would not authentic an unwitnessed signature, with this JSA purchase that now changes. We will see how they address the difference and if they will do signed cards now as well.

When I saw it, it seemed more relevant to the comic side of things but this could open a new cash stream if they allow signed cards as well. Of course that likely will mean another new label too which will suck.

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Old 03-20-2024, 10:18 PM
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If their prices and turn times are better than PSA, i would go there instead. I used to have all my signed stuff slabbed at SGC when JSA was doing the authenticating.
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Old 03-21-2024, 07:42 AM
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Good for Jimmy, but as the competition dwindles, it makes it harder on collectors.

Remember when PSA "bought" the other auto authenticators?
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Old 03-21-2024, 08:56 AM
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I know from reading posts via JSA (back in 2020-2022) and some discussions they wanted to open up encapsulation again, so this seems like a good way to get the best of both worlds vs starting from scratch.

I would think, like the PSA/SGC move it opens up possibly more locations (NJ), so that can’t hurt either.

I have an JSA authenticated card that I have been waiting to get encapsulated and graded, so waiting to hear about that process over the next few weeks.
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Of course that likely will mean another new label too which will suck.

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CGC already offers dual auto grades for on-card factory autos. They put the auto grade on the back of the flip. Otherwise it looks the same as an unsigned card flip. I doubt they'd change their flips again. They've already done it twice now, and they've taken hear for it already.
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Didn't SGC drop using JSA do to them authenticating all those fraudulent signed T206 cards discovered on this forum?
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Didn't SGC drop using JSA do to them authenticating all those fraudulent signed T206 cards discovered on this forum?
JSA had nothing to do with the T206 issue. They were on their own at that point.
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JSA had nothing to do with the T206 issue. They were on their own at that point.

Jsa authorized a whole slew of OTHER forged t206s cards for the record. Not the SgC ones
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Jsa authorized a whole slew of OTHER forged t206s cards for the record. Not the SgC ones
JSA, SGC and PSA all authenticated forged signatures on T206 cards from 2015 to 2018 — SGC had the most (13), JSA had at least 5, and PSA had 1, but it was the most expensive (Baker).

SGC stopped authenticating all autographs as a result of the issue. JSA had parted ways with SGC over five years earlier. In 2013, SGC brought the autograph authentication in-house. They stopped in early 2019.
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The dual comic and autograph authentication opened today. It is a new label. The release mention sport cards is next, so should be a few months when that opens up.
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JSA, SGC and PSA all authenticated forged signatures on T206 cards from 2015 to 2018 — SGC had the most (13), JSA had at least 5, and PSA had 1, but it was the most expensive (Baker).

SGC stopped authenticating all autographs as a result of the issue. JSA had parted ways with SGC over five years earlier. In 2013, SGC brought the autograph authentication in-house. They stopped in early 2019.
There an article or a thread on here, about this? Would love to give it a read. Thank you.
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JSA, SGC and PSA all authenticated forged signatures on T206 cards from 2015 to 2018 — SGC had the most (13), JSA had at least 5, and PSA had 1, but it was the most expensive (Baker).

SGC stopped authenticating all autographs as a result of the issue. JSA had parted ways with SGC over five years earlier. In 2013, SGC brought the autograph authentication in-house. They stopped in early 2019.

Thank you for sharing Paul. This is critical history.
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