Ohtani interpreter

Peter_Spaeth · #1 03-22-2024, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

I've lived and breathed gambling for decades. I assure you it is quite possible to peg someone with a gambling problem. I made a living off of figuring out which of my opponents exhibited the telltale symptoms. I'm not delusional. I'm extremely calculated and observant. Ohtani carries himself in the precise opposite manner of a degenerate. I'm not saying he doesn't ever place bets, but he's not a degenerate gambler. I'd bet money on it

You cannot possibly know enough about him, unless you know him personally, to be able to say one way or another. What's your exposure to him? You've wetched how he carries himself? Please. Not that you aren't right, but to say you have some special insight is not persuasive.

Snowman · #2 03-23-2024, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You cannot possibly know enough about him, unless you know him personally, to be able to say one way or another. What's your exposure to him? You've wetched how he carries himself? Please. Not that you aren't right, but to say you have some special insight is not persuasive.

I don't know him at all. Never met him and don't know anyone who has. But I know degenerate gamblers. They can't help themselves. A degenerate gambler isn't capable of signing the type of contract that he signed with the Dodgers. They don't make prudent decisions. They don't carry themselves with poise. They bathe themselves in shame and it's written all over their faces. Ohtani carries himself with honor. A degenerate gambling addiction is a coping mechanism for someone who is clinically depressed. Ohtani is the polar opposite of someone like that. You don't have to know him personally to observe these traits or to learn about the types of decisions he makes in life that preclude him from someone who fits the degenerate gambling profile. Most of them are also alcoholics.

Again, I'm not saying he doesn't gamble to some extent. I have no idea if he does or not. I'm just saying he's not a degenerate if so. You're free to disagree all you want. I don't really care. I'm just sharing my opinion and I'm confident in my reads of people.

packs · #3 03-23-2024, 09:50 AM

From that article it is still clear that there isn’t a criminal investigation being conducted by any known law enforcement agency.

Still doesn’t seem like the central question has been answered: did anyone steal anything from anyone?

$4.5 million dollars is a lot of cash, plus all that wire fraud if the wires weren't from Ohtani himself. Seems like someone would have an interest if a crime occurred.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 03-23-2024, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

I don't know him at all. Never met him and don't know anyone who has. But I know degenerate gamblers. They can't help themselves. A degenerate gambler isn't capable of signing the type of contract that he signed with the Dodgers. They don't make prudent decisions. They don't carry themselves with poise. They bathe themselves in shame and it's written all over their faces. Ohtani carries himself with honor. A degenerate gambling addiction is a coping mechanism for someone who is clinically depressed. Ohtani is the polar opposite of someone like that. You don't have to know him personally to observe these traits or to learn about the types of decisions he makes in life that preclude him from someone who fits the degenerate gambling profile. Most of them are also alcoholics.

Again, I'm not saying he doesn't gamble to some extent. I have no idea if he does or not. I'm just saying he's not a degenerate if so. You're free to disagree all you want. I don't really care. I'm just sharing my opinion and I'm confident in my reads of people.

The issue is whether he gambled or not, not whether he is a "degenerate" gambler, as you acknowledge. So why is that even relevant? And clinical depression is not necessarily obvious from public demeanor either.

pclpads · #5 03-23-2024, 02:17 PM

Face it. The interp had a dick job and pissed it all away due to greed. Maybe if he cuts Manfred's grass for the next 100 years he'll get a pass?

BeanTown · #6 03-23-2024, 02:37 PM

Not sure if this has been said yet� But did the interpreter work for Ohtani or the ball club? If Ohtani, then he could just 1099 him for all that money and take that off his adjustable gross, could he not? It wouldn�t be a criminal act if Ohtani didn�t file charges and would look good for the Japanese code or something along those lines.

jayshum · #7 03-23-2024, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanTown

Not sure if this has been said yet� But did the interpreter work for Ohtani or the ball club? If Ohtani, then he could just 1099 him for all that money and take that off his adjustable gross, could he not? It wouldn�t be a criminal act if Ohtani didn�t file charges and would look good for the Japanese code or something along those lines.

I'm pretty sure he was employed by the Dodgers since everything I've read talked about hom being fired by the Dodgers.

Lorewalker · #8 03-23-2024, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

I'm pretty sure he was employed by the Dodgers since everything I've read talked about hom being fired by the Dodgers.

This is correct. He was paid by the Dodgers...over 300K a year the guy was making. I think it is standard practice that the team covers the cost of an interpreter.

Snowman · #9 03-24-2024, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The issue is whether he gambled or not, not whether he is a "degenerate" gambler, as you acknowledge. So why is that even relevant? And clinical depression is not necessarily obvious from public demeanor either.

Because he would have to be a true degenerate gambler to have placed any wagers that would jeopardize his baseball career.

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