Ohtani interpreter - Net54baseball.com Forums
  NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-24-2024, 10:02 AM
Casey2296's Avatar
Casey2296 Casey2296 is offline
Is Mudville so bad?
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: West Coast
Posts: 5,609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SyrNy1960 View Post
Travis, thanks for sharing this. Never heard of degenerate gambler, so I looked it up. Definitely opened my eyes.

https://gamblerspro.com/degenerate-gambler-are-you-one/

I've been collecting cards and sports memorabilia for 45 years, before recently selling everything off. At no point did I ever have the urge to spend money I didn't have, just to get that item I really wanted. It's just not in me.

I now know my Son is a degenerate gambler. I assume it started when he worked at a Casino right after high school. He worked there for a couple of years, but was later fired and banned from the Casino (I assume he stole from them). He had numerous jobs in which he stole from his employers to support his gambling habit. One business fired him for theft, then rehired him (owner was a friend of his mother), then he stole from them again. His only interaction with me over the last 15 years was when he was looking for money. He wasn't a good liar, so I didn't fall for his stories. I wouldn't hear from him for years at at time.

After not hearing from him for the past two years, he reached out to me. He told me that he was arrested for stealing from his employer and that they pressed charges (none of the other business filed charges, they just fired him). He said he was facing jail time and it scared him to death because he has a 6 year old son. I was able to check and verify that he was telling me the truth. He told me how he was going through counseling and how much he has learned from it, blah blah blah. Well, being that I was a legal officer in the military for 25 years, and I have seen many young Sailors turn themselves around after getting into trouble, I let my guard down. I believed and trusted him. I was proud of him for turning a corner to better his life. He was very convincing. He played me for about a month, before working his magic to get money out of me. I guess the father in me wanted to believe in him, more than I should have. He had a debt that he needed taken care, so I wanted to help him, so he could continue to get himself out of debt. Well, once he got the money (not a loan), he again pressed for money a few weeks later. That's when I knew he didn't learn a thing. Possible jail didn't scare him. When he wasn't going to get any more money from me, he got angry and turned back into his old nasty, hateful self again.

It's truly difficult for me to understand the mindset they have. But the above article did help somewhat. It's truly sad to see my Son ruin his life over gambling. And he's not even good at it.

Thanks, Tony
Heartbreaking story Tony, thank you for sharing. Gambling is a particularly nasty addiction that not only ruins the life of the gambler but also has devastating effects of those around him as your story so poignantly points out.

I believe the consequences of major league sports embracing gambling will only produce more stories like that of your son in the years to come.
__________________
Phil Lewis


https://www.flickr.com/photos/183872512@N04/
-
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-24-2024, 10:23 AM
SyrNy1960's Avatar
SyrNy1960 SyrNy1960 is offline
Tony Baldwin
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 918
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey2296 View Post
Heartbreaking story Tony, thank you for sharing. Gambling is a particularly nasty addiction that not only ruins the life of the gambler but also has devastating effects of those around him as your story so poignantly points out.

I believe the consequences of major league sports embracing gambling will only produce more stories like that of your son in the years to come.
Phil,

Thanks! What’s more frustrating is that he’s to the point where I can’t help him anymore. He only lashes out and says very nasty and hateful things. I have to continue to watch him spiral his life out of control. He’s owes $20,000 in back child support and just continues to dig himself in a deeper hole. My worry and fear is that if he goes too deep down the hole, and he feels he has no way out, he will end his life. My worst nightmare! Before gambling, he was a great kid with a good heart.
__________________
Successful NET54 transactions:
robw1959, Tyruscobb
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-25-2024, 03:29 AM
Snowman Snowman is offline
Travis
Tra,vis Tr,ail - Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 2,446
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SyrNy1960 View Post
Phil,

Thanks! What’s more frustrating is that he’s to the point where I can’t help him anymore. He only lashes out and says very nasty and hateful things. I have to continue to watch him spiral his life out of control. He’s owes $20,000 in back child support and just continues to dig himself in a deeper hole. My worry and fear is that if he goes too deep down the hole, and he feels he has no way out, he will end his life. My worst nightmare! Before gambling, he was a great kid with a good heart.
I'm sorry to hear about your son's struggle with his gambling addiction. I've witnessed similar behavior from numerous friends over the years as well. It's more common than most people realize, and as you're currently experiencing, it can tear apart families. If I can offer any advice, the most important thing to remember is that this truly is like a disease. It's actually a cognitive disorder. It's similar to an adrenaline junkie. It's not just about getting money, it's about the dopamine rush that they experience when they win. He physically can't help himself. There are free programs out there that can help though, if he's willing to put in the work. The best thing you can do as a father is to have an open and honest conversation with him. Read more about the disease and tell him you're trying to understanding what he's going through and that you want to be there to support him. But you also have to tell him that because of his addiction, you have to draw a hard line in the sand when it comes to money, and make it clear that he won't be getting any from you. But be sure he knows that you love him, that you understand what he's going through, and that you're there for support. Take him fishing, if that's your thing. Get him away from that environment, and encourage him to find help. People in his position often feel immense shame. They get down on themselves because they think they've failed everyone who placed their trust in them, and they lose hope. They lose friends over borrowing money. I have several friends from my former life as a professional gambler who owe me money. I know they'll never pay me back, and I'm at peace with it. I had dinner with one of my friends who owed me money after a couple of years of not seeing or talking with each other, and the shame was written all over his face the moment I saw him. He couldn't even look me in the eye. We were good friends too. I knew he couldn't afford to pay me back and that I'd never see that money, but I didn't care. He was hoping I would just avoid the topic, but I told him right out of the gate that I didn't care about the money and that I wanted him to keep it and that I just wanted to catch up on life. I told him I didn't want him to carry that burden anymore. His eyes welled up with tears. He's not someone who experiences forgiveness or empathy from others very often. Any amount of love, empathy, forgiveness, and patience that you can give to your son will go a long way. Make sure he knows that you understand what he's going through and that you refuse to let it ruin your relationship.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-25-2024, 04:47 AM
SyrNy1960's Avatar
SyrNy1960 SyrNy1960 is offline
Tony Baldwin
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 918
Default

Travis, thank you very much for the advice. Much appreciated! Sorry everyone for injecting my personal life into this thread.
__________________
Successful NET54 transactions:
robw1959, Tyruscobb
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-25-2024, 09:27 AM
raulus raulus is offline
Nicol0 Pin.oli
 
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 3,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SyrNy1960 View Post
Travis, thank you very much for the advice. Much appreciated! Sorry everyone for injecting my personal life into this thread.
No need to apologize.

We all have fun with our kids driving us nuts sometimes. But this definitely gives us perspective to count our many blessings, because it could always be worse.
__________________
Trying to wrap up my master mays set, with just a few left:

1968 American Oil left side
1971 Bazooka numbered complete panel

Last edited by raulus; 03-25-2024 at 09:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-25-2024, 01:20 PM
jayshum jayshum is offline
Jay Shumsky
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,128
Default

Report now is that Ohtani will read a prepared statement sometime this afternoon and take no questions so seems unlikely there will be many answers to the questions that are still out there about what happened.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-25-2024, 09:40 PM
Fred's Avatar
Fred Fred is offline
Fred
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,364
Default

Ohtani said he's not a gambler and the money sent to the bookie wasn't because of his betting, he said he doesn't gamble.

If he was tied to gambling but didn't bet on baseball and came clean about it, then things would just go away after a while. He has more to lose by lying than telling the truth (unless he bet on baseball). Things would come back 10x worse if he were caught in a lie.

I believe him.

Let the season begin!
__________________
fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff. PM or email me if you have something
cool you're looking to find a new home for.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: TC PSA 10 Ohtani Pjere 1980 & Newer Sports Cards B/S/T 0 12-11-2023 01:41 AM
FS: 2018 Leaf Ohtani Retail #01 Shohei Ohtani BCCG10 - $15 Shipped Charger74 1980 & Newer Sports Cards B/S/T 1 12-18-2021 06:56 PM
Ohtani Snapolit1 Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk 31 09-05-2021 07:05 PM
Ohtani ROY, really????? savedfrommyspokes Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk 42 11-15-2018 09:44 PM
Ohtani CollectingAmericasPastime Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk 5 06-11-2018 12:33 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:46 AM.


ebay GSB