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Old 03-26-2024, 03:04 PM
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You are not close. My card has all the other borders cut off as well, in addition to ink stain and more creasing. BUT, I was willing to pay a $3100 valuation at the $85 fee...and they still demanded $250. So I have no idea what your point is.
My point was pretty evident. Their evaluation is NOT that far off given comparable recent sales of Authentic/Altered sales. Only a single Authentic/Altered graded PSA has sold for under $3,500 in Ebay's recent history. You can complain about your border all you want, but their use of recent sales supports their evaluation.
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Old 03-26-2024, 03:12 PM
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My point was pretty evident. Their evaluation is NOT that far off given comparable recent sales of Authentic/Altered sales. Only a single Authentic/Altered graded PSA has sold for under $3,500 in Ebay's recent history. You can complain about your border all you want, but they're use of recent sales supports their evaluation.

That’s not even true. I’ve found 2 here and these cards are significantly different/better than what I submitted. And eBay isn’t everything in comps, could find more similar comps elsewhere if I had to.

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That’s not even true. I’ve found 2 here and these cards are significantly different/better than what I submitted. And eBay isn’t everything in comps, could find more similar comps elsewhere if I had to.

Dude, take a deep breath. You asked for input and Mark is giving you some points to consider. Why are you lashing out at him???
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One company now so I guess they can quote Psa comps cause Collectors Owns. That sucks I’m sorry man. You’re never gonna get Close to $3500 for that card it has zero borders, again I’m sorry man, good luck.
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Dude, take a deep breath. You asked for input and Mark is giving you some points to consider. Why are you lashing out at him???
Because, to be fair, Mark was implying they were just about within reason to demand the $250 fee, by him giving me a comp that was well below that threshold and then acting like that was a one-off, lone example anyway.
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There is a big difference in eye appeal between the two. The fact that a superior looking trimmed example with more of the borders intact sold for just over the pricing threshold (the huge pricing differences at grading card companies for the different levels of perceived value are just plain nonsensical) should not make this still neat card be considered also at this higher level.


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There is a big difference in eye appeal between the two. The fact that a superior looking trimmed example with more of the borders intact sold for just over the pricing threshold (the huge pricing differences at grading card companies for the different levels of perceived value are just plain nonsensical) should not make this still neat card be considered also at this higher level.


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And the level is $3500 anyway for the $250 fee, not $3000, so it's not even close on those comps, much less a worse card.
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That sort of haggling isn't new with SGC. At one National, I brought them a card I'd gotten for $500 and they insisted that it was worth enough to 4x my on-site grading costs. I haggled like hell with them and paid 2x instead but I wasn't happy about it. A big name iconic card is just the sort of item they'd squeeze.
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A raw/ungraded extremely trimmed card isn’t a comp with a graded psa 1 (numerical grade)

Pure money grab.

That being said, they own the field now so if you want to play the game you gotta play by their rules I suppose.
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Yea, that's painful,

I don't get it, a card like that.. with them asking for more money....are they paying a more higher salary grader to look at it ?

A card in that shape ,Id think its the same ( I dont know 10 minute evaluation) time frame to go over it

Ive never been a graded collector, but it does seem like a bit of a gouge job
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Yea, that's painful,

I don't get it, a card like that.. with them asking for more money....are they paying a more higher salary grader to look at it ?

A card in that shape ,Id think its the same ( I dont know 10 minute evaluation) time frame to go over it

Ive never been a graded collector, but it does seem like a bit of a gouge job
I doubt it would take 10 minutes for a grader on that card.
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I doubt it would take 10 minutes for a grader on that card.
About 10 seconds.

Just have to decide whether it's authentic or a 1.

Do they have MK and ST qualifiers over there too?

And maybe they need to put "evidence of trimming" on the slab too?

So maybe 30 seconds.
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They might me going off VCP showing a Auth value of that card is $3509.71

https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...H?id=114149018
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Glad it got resolved. SGC is entitled to their fair grading fees but this feels like a PSA influence to me to charge the $250. If they are using VCP and going after Avg sales prices, that can be misleading. As we all know there are killer looking Auths and then there are some that should be laid to rest. This one is in between and will never sell for 3K. I think the valuation of 2Kish is right.
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