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Old 03-29-2024, 07:34 AM
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Maybe get it reslabbed by SGC, but have them call it a 1958 Early Wynn with a Maris front?

Actually scratch that. Would probably hurt the value.
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Old 03-29-2024, 10:09 AM
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Another member here, Kevin, and I rebuild '50s and '60s Topps production sheets that aren't currently known. We just very recently reconstructed three missing rows from a partial 1958 Topps 1st Series sheet and Maris was one of those 33 missing cards, The problem is we have Maris in the fourth column of one of those three previously missing rows and Wynn is in the tenth column of an already known row, that doesn't work with your card if it is a wrong back because if the entire back of the sheet was printed upside down like the vast majority of wrong backs are then Maris would line up with the eighth card of another row, not the tenth like Wynn is. I believe this Maris wrong back is actually a very well cut card from a Salesman Sample 3 card panel and was purposely printed with a Wynn back like this Salesman Sample 3 card panel. Otherwise we have a mistake in our 3 row reconstruction.
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Old 03-29-2024, 10:33 AM
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Oh wow that’s interesting, equally cool in my opinion. Any leads you can give me for 1958 salesman sample information?? Thanks for your info and for your hobby research! It always blows my mind the level of knowledge about obscure items on these boards.
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Old 03-30-2024, 06:28 AM
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I am aware of the following 1958 salesman samples but unfortunately, I don't know the back card for most of them.

The samples I know are:
Ennis/Hoefft/Richardson, back = Kaline
Specer/Jackson/Klaus
Neeman/Pierce/Zimmer back = Kaline
Jackson/Klaus/Busby
Drott/Strickland/Kell
Drysdale (probably Drysdale/Lamdis/Mossi)
Aaron & Thompson (probably Aaron/Thompson/Snider)
Porter & Barclay (probably Porter/Barclay/Sisler)
Gernert & Nuxhall
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Old 03-30-2024, 07:23 AM
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Interesting, so no known maris! It just gets more interesting. Thanks for the info, looks like I’ll be diving into more research
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Old 03-30-2024, 08:04 AM
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The Maris is technically a wrong back, there is no arguing that, but I believe it is also part of a 3 card Salesman Sample panel which in my mind makes it cooler and probably more valuable.
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Is the 47 written on under the red ink? It's hard to tell from scans, but it appears to be.
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